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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Well i admit Reed probably can move past Civil war, but i recently did re-read the thing, and wow, he's even more unlikable than Tony and bordering on an alien who can't comprehend human beings.
Like the latter part is what people need to work with in regards to Reed's character.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"He seems okay in the Dan Slott Fantastic Four, characterization wise.
There's some interesting takes elsewhere like him getting all up in Moon Girl's business because he cannot believe that this small genius does not like him and doesn't want his input
And him electrocuting Spider-Ham just because he knows it won't kill him. That sure was a take.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAnother chosen Mandarin ring host was a Broadway director hired by Tony Stark to create a musical based on his life. For whatever reason, he thought it was a good idea to portray the guy who hired him to direct the musical as a sexual deviant. Tony wasn't amused and had him fired and replaced. The director nursed a murderous grudge and became a supervillain thanks to one of the Mandarin's rings. Though his career was short-lived since Malekith killed him and took the ring for himself.
It's not just MCU Tony who has a weird knack for getting people to hate and want to kill him.
Edited by M84 on Aug 7th 2020 at 12:16:53 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
How legit is that?
Because i can buy it. XD
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You would be surprised. I mean Tony Stark was supposed to be seen as compassionate in Civil War comic version. And yeah.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 6th 2020 at 9:18:58 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Meanwhile Dr. Doom was a poor Romanian peasant kid who immigrated to the USA then eventually became a self-Made Man, compared to Reed living the good life and generally being a privileged American yeah, there's a reason why Doom has a bigger fanbase.
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Well Doom has more knowledge in magic than Reed. It's just Dr. Strange has him beat in that field.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 6th 2020 at 9:20:13 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"![]()
What he did to Latveria isn't really an accomplishment. He took over a country and established a brutal dictatorship where all of the citizenry are too afraid to speak up. That Latveria was a shithole even before Doom took over doesn't change that.
All Doom really did was replace the Latverian monarchy's secret police with his own robot police.
Latveria's kind of had bad luck when it comes to leadership, is what I'm saying.
Reed probably could do something similar and "better" - he'd just have to throw out all of his scruples and respect for freedom. Seriously, you really think Reed couldn't take over a poor country and remake it into a technological superpower?
Shit, Ultimate Reed (ie the one who became a supervillain) kind of pulled that off. The Maker essentially shows just how bad Reed could get if he shared Doom's mindset. Turns out it's really really bad.
Edited by M84 on Aug 7th 2020 at 12:29:39 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedDoom is like Luthor.
For all his talk about how much he could make the world the better if his nemesis didn't exist, he ultimately is just a megalomaniac.
Ultimate Reed pulled an evolution base where he evolved a bunch of people millions of years & shit. He did it bigger than Victor.
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 6th 2020 at 9:27:55 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Man, that's gotta suck for Doom.
I admit, I always get an irrational bug up my butt when explicit lines are drawn like that. XD Like, part of me wonders what makes Doom so dangerous if he's objectively worse than the heroes are at all the things he's good at.
Edited by GNinja on Aug 6th 2020 at 4:29:14 PM
Kaze ni Nare!Marvel intelligence isn't like DBZ power levels basically.
Just because Reed is some arbitrary amount of smarter than Doom doesn't mean Doom can't come up with fiendish traps and him being second best at a lot of things makes him a lot more versatile than the heroes he fights.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersEhh so Doom turned it into a fascist nightmare where his subjects are fearful of him and Doombots are the secret police, the quality of living and freedom is unmatched.
I mean, clearly the terrified population is happy they live under a benevolent dictator like Doom. Just look at all the people trying to escape or trying to overthrow him.
It's a real depending on the writer, but generally the people love Doom, while the higher ups conspire to overthrow him.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 6th 2020 at 9:31:46 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Besides that one guy who blamed Tony for failing to stop the guy's own drunken murderous rampage that killed his family, there was Pepper's fiance, who hated Tony because Pepper keeps being involved in Tony's drama and figured becoming part of a supervillain team out to kill Tony was a good idea.
Eh. Sounds logical to me. As for Reed, just avoid making him an ass. I mean, he can pull some dumb stunts due to how he gets caught up in sciencing, but he should always be someone Sue would legitimately love, and Ben would honestly be friends with. Just drop the other shit.
Make him...somewhat humble too. Yeah, he's smart, he knows he's smart, and maybe he can be Innocently Insensitive about it, but he never actively seeks to lord it over everyone, and doesn't think he's got anything to prove.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 6th 2020 at 10:33:56 AM
One Strip! One Strip!

Edited by Blueace on Aug 6th 2020 at 12:12:29 PM
Wake me up at your own risk.