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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#119376: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:30:37 PM

There are so many characters in the X-Men and X-adjacent stories to use, that it would probably do everyone some good to generate distance from the Fox interpretation. No Wolverine for a few movies, no Magneto, no Mystique unless she’s an out and out Captain Marvel villain with Rogue, etc.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#119377: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:32:10 PM

Give me a good Cyclops this time.

Also make a Jean a decent character for once in these movies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#119378: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:36:08 PM

I keep saying if we want Magneto in the MCU, just put him in stasis.

HYDRA has stasis technology (with the Winter Soldier) and were connected with the Nazis, it's not infeasible that a HYDRA scientist took notice one of the camp prisoners was the master of magnet and decided to put him on ice so they could study and maybe replicate his powers.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#119379: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:37:23 PM

Who would make a good Cyclops and Jean? I can't really think of anyone.

Edited by Bullman on Jul 23rd 2020 at 3:38:49 AM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#119380: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:39:17 PM

I'm going to rehash my comment whenever this comes up (ditto Moon Knight,although I don't think that particular discussion has been here yet). There have not been any Jewish hero characters yet (or IIRC any characters identified as Jewish period), and so I'm pretty opposed to the idea that what Jewish representation there is should be removed.

Also, I think that having Magneto look like a young or relatively guy would be a nice way of both emphasizing the mutant superiority element and by framing him explicitly or implicitly as a dark mirror of Captain America. My fancast would either be Jason Isaacs or Nikolaj Coster-Waldau.

Edit - Having him put on ice would also be a cool (sorry) idea, which would also make for obvious Captain America parallels. Although that would presumably mean an even younger actor.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jul 23rd 2020 at 3:41:22 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#119381: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:39:37 PM

Scott doesn't have that many requirements, just someone who is good at being straightlaced and bounces off well with the rest of the wilder cast and doesn't mind wearing red sunglasses most of the time. Jean, well, find a good young redhead, if they aren't going to Race Lift her or anything.

Wake me up at your own risk.
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#119382: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:51:00 PM

[up][up] Isn't Kitty Pride Jewish? She was way underused in the Fox films and it could be nice to see more of her (I wouldn't mind seeing Ellen Page again in the role, come to think of it).

Edited by C105 on Jul 23rd 2020 at 10:51:08 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#119383: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:55:35 PM

If we do get Magneto, I'd rather they introduce him as an Anti-Villain and have him become more of an unambiguous hero like some comic arcs had, instead of just falling back on him almost every film like the Fox films did.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#119384: Jul 23rd 2020 at 2:03:18 PM

I would like for at least the first movie not have Wolverine, Professor X, or Magneto. I feel like they can wait to introduce them in the MCU.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#119385: Jul 23rd 2020 at 2:03:39 PM

[up][up][up]

She is. And oddly from the same town as I am. I would like to see her cast and featured prominently as well.

Also, I do want to note that there are of course Jews of many races, and while Magneto's backstory limits the casting a bit more, Kitty could probably be cast with an actress of any race. Ditto Moon Knight to be honest.

[up][up]

Ditto. That would be another way to distinguish him from the Fox version.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jul 23rd 2020 at 4:05:06 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#119386: Jul 23rd 2020 at 5:21:12 PM

Marvel at least has Persuasion, who - from what I know of her - tends to consistently be pretty heroic

Though one of the first things she did with her powers was make Northstar fall for her.

Even at her best her powers still come off as creepy.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#119387: Jul 23rd 2020 at 5:23:09 PM

TBF, Marvel in the late 80's was evidently really bad at non-creepy romances between characters.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#119388: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:01:55 PM

Ah, Alpha Flight and its romances that all make me uncomfortable on at least some level.

  • Mac and Heather who the backstory makes sure to tell us met when Heather was only 17.

  • Aurora and Walter's romance where the problem of Aurora's other personality hating Walter is basically ignored.

  • Doug Thompson and his wife Narya who is technically 6 years old.

  • Namor and Marrina who are both adults when they meet, but Namor was three times Marrina's age... and at one point the narration calls Marrina a "tantalizing child-woman"... Oh also there's a subplot about Marrina's adopted brother being in love with her...

Northstar was mostly able to avoid the creepy romance because he wasn't allowed any romance at all. Which definitely says something about the people who considered all of the above acceptable but not Northstar dating another man.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#119389: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:43:18 PM

The untitled sequel to Spider-Man: Far From Home has apparently moved from November next year to December.

This is a goddamn nightmare. I want to go to the movies again. Somebody save us!

EDIT: Silver lining to this development, not only will this be the second time we got a Spider-Man movie released during the Christmas season, but apparently it means an inevitable $1 billion. I'm still mad.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:48:34 AM

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#119390: Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:37:29 PM

Also we never gotten a MCU film debut in December.

Only other months MCU has never debuted on are January, September, and October.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#119391: Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:43:24 PM

Do we have any idea on who the villain in the next Spider-Man movie is?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#119392: Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:46:25 PM

No one knows, but the prevailing theory / wish on here tends to be Kraven the Hunter (though essentially usurping Scorpion's plot).

I'm actually surprised the thing is coming out so soon. I was expecting the next Spidey film after Black Panther 2 at least. Hopefully, even though it's pushed back, we might get some info soon.

In fact, isn't SDCC next weekend?

No, wait, crap it's tomorrow!

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:53:44 AM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#119393: Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:53:32 PM

An MCU Ghost Rider (a different one from AoS obviously, perhaps the same one who gave Robbie his powers) could be a good fit for October...

Edited by FGHIK on Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:55:49 AM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#119394: Jul 23rd 2020 at 7:57:18 PM

The real question is: what did tony star did to piss off whavever next villian peter will face?tongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#119395: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:01:22 PM

Stark industrial pollution killed the hunting grounds Kraven hunted at. He became a man-hunter ever since after running out of animals to kill.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#119396: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:03:35 PM

Sergei Kravinoff met Tony Stark once at a party and had to spend twenty minutes talking to him. He swiftly decided to dedicate the rest of his life to hunting down humanity.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#119397: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:04:15 PM

I find that completely believable.[lol]

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#119398: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:13:22 PM

Tony Stark accidentally spilled a martini on Norman Osborne at a party.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#119399: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:15:26 PM

Tony taked to a guy called otto once, saying he is better sceintist and better with woman.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#119400: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:16:18 PM

Tony Stark once flipped off an annoying reporter named Eddie Brock.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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