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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#119326: Jul 21st 2020 at 11:09:50 PM

Granted I would have like stuff from the moving seen in the netflix show, at times it really feel like watching and alternate universe.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#119328: Jul 22nd 2020 at 4:43:33 AM

I'm reminded how it was a bit of big deal when Agent Venom moved fron NY to Pennsylvania.

Also Kaine/Scarlet Spider operated out of Texas.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#119329: Jul 22nd 2020 at 5:06:45 AM

[up][up]We do already have Runaways.

Edited by M84 on Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:06:55 PM

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#119330: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:30:45 AM

[up]x3: Not to mention Cloak & Dagger (2018)'s New Orleans setting. Arguably Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D goes all over the world, universe and time.


Interestingly, Marvel Studios has partnered up with Sydney animation studio Flying Bark Productions for an upcoming series.
The fact that it's specifically Marvel Studios implies that it's MCU-related, but most likely unrelated to Marvel's What If...? (handled by Squeeze Animation Studios).

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 22nd 2020 at 11:47:16 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#119331: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:33:59 AM

[up] The animation studio behind Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Glitch Techs are doing an MCU-related show? surprised

Whatever it becomes, I request that someone inject it in my veins! grin

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#119332: Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:34:31 PM

Huh well hopefully its a dope show.

We could use a new era of Marvel animation since the last one was such a mediocre slog of shows.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#119333: Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:36:49 PM

If there's one thing DC's nailed consistently and Marvel hasn't, it's TV shows.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#119334: Jul 22nd 2020 at 7:22:06 PM

Animated tv shows. DC's record on the live-action front is a lot more mixed due their extensive deal with CW and their types of show.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#119335: Jul 22nd 2020 at 7:24:31 PM

They are also still making animated movies.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#119336: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:01:47 PM

[up]Granted DC animated show and movie isnt universily praised as before because some of their movie are seen a meh in best of cases.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#119337: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:36:41 PM

Marvel has had good animated shows.

I don't need to mention both The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and The Spectacular Spider-Man. The problem is they refused to stick with them, and then created products that were patently inferior. Well Spectacular was done in by rights issues due to Sony having a tight death grip on Spidey and Disney wanting to be as different from anything the latter has done as possible. I don't know what the muffins happened to kill EMH.

Now they've had other good series as well, but some of them took a while. The first seasons of the old 90's Iron Man and FF series were cheesy, but they took a huge jump in quality in the second season. X-Men: Evolution took a while to find it's footing, but as time went on, I came to see it as possibly truest to the themes of the series.

Marvel can make great series, they just need to focus on...well making good series instead of tying into their movies.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#119338: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:40:20 PM

[up]I still think the 2nd season opening sequence for the Iron Man animated series was cool.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#119339: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:45:46 PM

[up][tup]

And while we at it:

I recall someone (maybe on this thread) saying this opening says everything you need to know about the Four....and all without being Grammatical.tongue

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#119340: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:46:50 PM

To be clear the current era of Marvel animation started with the cancellation of Earth's Mightiest Heroes & beginning of Ultimate Spider-Man.

Since then we got Avenger's Assemble, Guardians of the Galaxy, & the current Spider-Man cartoon most of which mediocre AF.

Does not help that the Marvel Animation studio got hit with a ton of downsizing & other bad stuff I recall.

So this decade has just been a near absolute crapfest for Marvel animation.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#119341: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:50:32 PM

[up]x4 I thought EMH was canned due to poor ratings/toy sales and a desire to be more MCU- adjacent? While understandable from a business perspective it does mean that if you want something that isn't MCU flavored you have to look at old stuff (since the Avengers and Guardians cartoons are taking cues so heavily from the films and Spider-Man shows are...mixed).

On the subject of Marvel Animation, I always had a soft spot for Iron Man: Armored Adventures. Teen Tony may be weird but it has some good stories and I think maybe some of the best versions of his rogues gallery, like Gene/The Mandarin.

[nja]'d

Edited by Aleistar on Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:52:10 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#119342: Jul 22nd 2020 at 9:19:20 PM

Armored Adventures was a lot better than it had any right to be.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#119343: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:17:06 AM

I never actually hated Ultimate Spider-Man. I thought it was a average cartoon at first that grew into something legitimately good by it's final run. I can't speak for the new one however.

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#119344: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:33:44 AM

I couldn’t get through the first season. It was just too obnoxious. Especially when Deadpool showed up and had to out obnoxious how Deadpool lite peter was already being

On the other hand I stuck with seasons and seasons of Avengers Assemble in a vain hope for quality. So my priorities are not great.

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#119345: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:43:31 AM

The last season of Avengers Assemble is kind of decent if you pretend it's a Black Panther cartoon... because that's what it essentially turned into.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#119346: Jul 23rd 2020 at 8:10:22 AM

Ultimate Spiderman did kinda grow some nice facial hair as it went on.

Still not great, but vastly improved.

Avengers becoming a Black Panther season in it's final season was fine with me. T'challa rocks, and I regret not reading more of his stuff.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#119347: Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:20:00 AM

T'Challa was already pretty amazing in EMH (not that I complain).

I dropped after the first few episodes of Ultimate Spiderman. Though I'd like watch the episode with FitzSimmons someday.

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deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#119348: Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:51:07 AM

Hold on, *is* DC actually doing better in the animated tv show department? The only shows I can think of are Young Justice, Harley Quinn, and Teen Titans Go!.

I guess Young Justice—despite a relatively okay comeback season—is pretty good in comparison to Marvel’s current animated lineup, but also it’s kind of hard to get to and not exactly mainstream like it was back in the day. And while I haven’t seen the Harley Quinn show, TTG is extremely divisive...despite being popular with children.

Edited by deuteragonist on Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:53:08 AM

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#119349: Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:54:44 AM

> ? The only shows I can think of are Young Justice, Harley Quinn, and Teen Titans Go!.

None of those are called Batman

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deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#119350: Jul 23rd 2020 at 9:59:10 AM

Oh I just meant recently. The DCAU is pretty iconic and Marvel’s not gonna touch that anytime soon.


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