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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Re: power levels:
Sure, the plot can justify any character beating any other character, but how strong those characters are respective to each other affects what justifications you can use.
Like, Tony was able to beat Thanos, but that's because they set up a scenario where Tony was able to steal all the Infinity Stones and use them himself. That makes sense. Had Tony, without the Stones or even any Iron Man armor, punched Thanos to death with his bare hands, that'd be far less believable.
A normal human can give Spider-Man trouble ... if they bring the proper equipment and keep it a semi-long range fight. Once it becomes a fist fight, though, there's no reason that Spider-Man shouldn't be able to take down any ordinary human with one punch, and there's no reason said ordinary human should be able to dodge that punch.
Edited by RavenWilder on Jul 14th 2020 at 12:19:13 PM
QED.
Batgod is really an old meme that needs to die soon.
Batman as the know-it-all master of everything really goes against the very concept of the character and what makes him interesting, imO.
It's especially weird to see him doing so many things on a global scale in team books, while in his solo book, he still struggles with street crime.
Sorry for the DC off-topic
Which goes to show that in comics basically any character can beat any other character if the story requires it. Makes for some maddeningly stupid defeats, but that's stories for you. At least the MCU has been moderately consistent so far in that regard.
And I too find Batman is often overpowered in comics because he's Batman. That's at least one thing Dawn of Justice did right: when facing a superpowered monster, Batman runs.
Edited by C105 on Jul 14th 2020 at 10:30:54 AM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
To be fair, he got pretty lucky there.
And to be fair on that Batman vs Hulk comic, it very much predates Batgod. Hulk might have also been far weaker back then.
One Strip! One Strip!There’s a lot of asspulls that take Hulk out of fights so he doesn’t just win everything
Hawkeye once accidentally turned him back to Bruce Banner with a sonic arrow which the narration explicitly said was a once in a lifetime fluke
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDon't worry. Gamora stabbed him a while back in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Oh Starfox. Proving you don't have to be evil to be hated. You just need to have EXACTLY the wrong super power.
One Strip! One Strip!One Cracked article listed Starfox as one of the creepiest characters in comics of all time.
It also included the Starfox vs. Hulk "fight" in their Most Hilariously Mismatched Fights in comics of all time article.
Edited by M84 on Jul 15th 2020 at 2:22:02 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedMy Hero Academia does have a character who’s trying to be a hero (as
says, Shinso) with control powers who has to suffer issues with the perception that people assumed he will naturally turn into a villain because of said power.
Helps that the ability has very specific activation & can be easily shook off.
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 14th 2020 at 11:30:15 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."It's one of those powers that can only really work for heroes if their version is very limited. And even then, it's gonna be questionable. Just look at all the debates about whether the Jedi Mind Trick is ethical.
In general, heroic characters with Psychic Powers including mind control are very aware of the ethical problems with mind control and for the most part refrain from ever using it. Martian Manhunter is a prime example. He has self-imposed limitations on his psychic powers akin to the self-imposed limitations his fellow superhero Superman places on his powers.
Edited by M84 on Jul 15th 2020 at 2:32:02 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedI’m all for giving Starfox shit as long as we can acknowledge that all mutant psychics are just the worst
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Edited by Beatman1 on Jul 14th 2020 at 3:05:21 PM