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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
We already have Tinkerer for augments, I think.
I still think a great idea for MCU Spider-Man 3 would be a semi-mash of a bunch of Kraven and anti-Spider-Man stories from the comics, basically involving Jameson or someone else putting out reward for Spidey's capture - resulting in a ton of villains coming out of the woodwork in minor ways to cash in: Scorpion, Spider-Slayers, etc.
But then Kraven turns out to be the most dangerous of the lot, and turns the tables on Jameson (who is more a misguided jerk than evil) by being outright evil and uncontrollable, obsessed with hunting down worthy threats without being particularly picky about ethics.
Also, and this has nothing to do with the above idea, but I got a cool idea of them bringing Liz back and mashing her together with her half-brother to be a more traditional Molten (Wo)Man - complete with not actually being evil when you get right down to it.
As another random thought, but with the convo about MJ, it occurs to me that since she's an OC they sky's kind of the limit for what they can choose to do with her. If they have her suit up somehow or become the MCU version of a heroine or another (as long as it's not Bluebird) there's nothing standing in their way. Hell, make her Jackpot instead of whatever fakeout character it was in the suit in the comics.
The arc I was thinking of involved Arcade and Kraven teaming up, with Arcade building a device to trap dozens of superheroes and villains in Central Park, and creating a virtual interface to allow regular people to hunt them down without consequences (or so they think). That sort of thing would be a neat way to use Arcade.
But then, that also kind of inches close to Mojo (who ain't getting a movie ever, granted). Maybe an upcoming X-Men movie could composite the two together.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 29th 2020 at 10:03:36 AM
I like the "a price on spidey's head" idea for the third one with spidey having nowhere to hide (Spider-Man: No Home?), particularly if they're using my boy Kraven the Hunter. Hilariously it could end up shading it towards a John Wick-esque vibe (as the whole "bunch of colorful character crawl out of the woodwork to get the hero 24/7" has most recently been done in franchise form by the John Wick franchise).
On the topic of Mojo: I've always thought he'd be a great choice for the main antagonist for Deadpool 3, if Disney ever grows the guts to do that movie. The pairing of Mojo and Deadpool (the resident fourth wall fiends) is such a natural one that it surprises me comics haven't really invested in it.
Deadpool has a pretty atrocious rogues gallery. The only recurring Deadpool villain I do legitimately like is Black Swan, but I'm beginning to think I'm the only one who even remembers he exists these days.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Fighter:...kinda? sometimes they do make a long and intersting progress of the chararter like cap, others I feel they stuck in one part and repeat over and over, like how Tonyw wasnt allow to move from "I screw up" even when Iron man 2 and 3 try.
Also, what would happen to cap and tony villian gallery now that both are out?, they will integrated to other villians?.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Everyone in comics with longevity has a rogues gallery of some kind, regardless if they kill villains or not. If they're more supernatural like Deadpool it's easiser to justify (the aforementioned Black Swan came back more than once via some psychic body-switching bullshit). Punisher, actual mass-murderer he is, has a small rogues gallery despite the fact he and his villains are often regular humans.
Maybe executing criminals in cold-blood doesn't solve everything, who'd have thought.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."If a villain is popular enough or a good enough fit for the hero, killing them isn't ever going to stop them from coming back. Comic books are perpetual, after all. They have to keep generating stories, more or less forever. So having a few defaults to jump back to is always going to happen - and having a villain who's guaranteed to sell issues stay dead is just asking to lose money.
Even Judge Dredd, famously merciless character who is sold on the idea that law enforcement should be judge, jury and executioner without hesitation, has a sizable rogues gallery.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:16:19 AM
Disney Plus is adding the original X-Men trilogy and The Wolverine
. If Logan shows up, it will likely be on Hulu.
Well, both Iron Man and Cap have successors lined up (in Iron Man's case several, from War Machine to Morgan). The usual route is just reusing those for the legacy characters. The most high profile IM villain not yet used is probably Ezekiel Stane (though Aldritch Killian is basically a dollar store version of him), so he could be one.
Of the Cap's rogues, Baron Von Strucker has technically been used but only in the most vague In Name Only fashion possible and he's a fairly high profile one (though he was more of a 616-Fury arch enemy than a Cap one) so I feel like it's plausible for him to be used again by way of a different character (i.e introducing another member of the Strucker family who's closer to his comics self).
@slimcoder: Yes, but none of those have really made an impact or are particularly interesting. T-Rey in particular is a pretty abysmal character. Black Swan is the only one I find to be a reasonably interesting character and who made a decent dent on DP's mythos (being essentially the cause of the whole Agent X era and whatnot).
Edited by Gaon on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:38:18 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."MODOK and Count Nefaria are pretty major Iron Man villains (though he does share them with Cap and the Avengers respectively) who haven't appeared yet. I really want MODOK for Captain Marvel 2, and I think Nefaria really should have been been in a movie by now, so I'm down with either of those.
But Iron Man's interesting, as the majority of his rogues gallery was kind of made to be jobbers, though. He's one of the comics books' best resources for throwaway robbers and mercs with supertech - if you want to fill space on a team, have a minor villain to fill time between major plots, want a easy minion for a more major bad guy - bam! Pull out an Iron Man rogue.
The MCU only recently moved out of the whole "the only villains around are specifically the big, major ones who become the personal threats of the current movie" mindset, though. That mindset made using a lot of IM's villains hard, because they would have to be redesigned to be more... vitally connected (a la Whiplash) if they were going to appear.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:49:36 AM
MODOK and Nefaria are two that I often think more as "general" rogues due their tendency to show up elsewhere in the MU rather than facing Iron Man specifically (and I can't say I particularly find Nefaria all that engaging). MODOK in particular has a Breakout Character thing going on where he has faced basically everyone under the sun.
MODOK I could see in Ant-Man 3 too. Might as well keep pilfering IM's rogues after Ghost, given Ant-Man's rogues gallery is pretty terrible (though I'm still surprised they haven't used Crossfire).
To me the "true-bred" IM's rogues gallery only really has three villains of note: The Mandarin, Justin Hammer and Crimson Dynamo (Dynamo less for himself and more for his sheer omnipresence as a character, man has like 13 iterations). All three of them have come and gone.
Edited by Gaon on Jun 30th 2020 at 11:01:00 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Well, MODOK generally comes with AIM, and I have always thought AIM would serve really well as Arch-Enemies for the Ant-Man family.

The next movie would involve Kraven with Ock augmenting him?
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