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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Were there ever an attempt at explanation for why in Marvel mutants were universally hated while other people with superpowers could get at least some level of respect? I never managed to wrap my head around that one, apart from the fact that mutants are supposed to represent oppressed minorities everywhere and so can't get a break.
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We were just talking about this.
Yes, because the Mutants are the next step of the natural Evolution, and humans are afraid they'll get replaced.
Science experiments aren't an own species.
Edited by Forenperser on Jun 18th 2020 at 10:36:23 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianUsing the stones as the cause of mutants birth would even account for their number having slowly increased over the years. When only the Tesseract and the Time Stone were on Earth, safely locked away, only a couple of mutants per century would be born (which would allow Apocalypse and later on Logan to exist). Then as people began using the stones more often (starting with Red Skull, then continuing with Mar-Vell), their number increased (allowing more mutants to be born in the fifties onward), and exploded after 2012 where not a year would pass without a stone being used extensively on Earth. All bets are off once the Snap and then the Unsnap saw all the stones being present and used at full powers on Earth, which would mean a lot of 5 years old mutants.
By the way, I wonder if they will focus on the relationships between the snapped and the unsnapped people. Maybe there could be some resentment brewing between those who had five years of their life stolen only to return in a world where they had been replaced and those who had to live five years on a half empty world. Having mutant children among the Unsnapped would only exacerbate that.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.I think it's the perfect explanation because it completely justifies a scenario where Mutants are suddenly too common to hide and soon to become even more common, plus allows the uneasy masses to label Mutants as a symptom of how the world is changing way too much ever since those gosh darned superheroes started popping up out of nowhere. There's your plot for an X-Men movie.
X-Men: Grand Design had the implication that because the public's first high profile exposure to mutants was Namor (you know, the asshole who flooded New York, attacked hospitals and murdered innocent divers and sailors in the Golden Age), it formed a multigenerational prejudice that never went away.
Edited by comicwriter on Jun 18th 2020 at 2:40:51 AM
I meant compared to the other 3, it's much more of a Monster of the Week movie.
The legend has returned.Damn, Wanda, Vision, and the Mind Stone all got dissed. And Age of Ultron also laid the foundations for Thor: Ragnarok, as well as mentions in Ant-Man, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and others.
If there's any movie from Phase Two that I'd say was the most irrelevant to the overall Infinity Saga, it would it be Iron Man 3. That film didn't really introduce a whole lot for the franchise and what it did was very minor in the grand scheme of things. There's Tony having his arc reactor removed, setting up why Tony wanted to build Ultron, and Harley's cameo during Tony's funeral in Endgame. But overall? I would say you could safely skip it without being lost watching the films that came after it.
I think the context for why Tony’s bad decision making is important
Not essential but it adds a lot to Tony’s behavior in civil war and a infinity war
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'd say Thor: The Dark World and The Incredible Hulk are pretty much neck and neck with it in terms of relevance.
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It established the trend of Tony unnecessarily making himself into everyone's worst enemy.
Thor: The Bad One at least gave us an Infinity Stone (and then put it on Knowhere), established Frigga's importance (...and also killed her off, grumble grumble), began clearing Thor's path to the Throne...
The Trans-American Hulk of course gave us Hulk and Ross, set up the idea of Banner trying to Control Hulk, established that there was still work done on derivative super-soldier serum...
Leader and Abomination were cancelled, of course.
Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 18th 2020 at 6:45:09 AM
The Dark World's not great, but it's important to the overall arc.
But The Incredible Hulk is a film that I can agree is mostly unnecessary. Most of the plot points aren't followed up on in later films. We're basically reintroduced to Bruce in The Avengers (2012), so you're not going to be too lost if you don't watch the first film. And while it did introduce Ross, he doesn't have any interactions with Banner and nothing specific from the film is referenced aside from the final fight with Harlem, which is mostly glossed over.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 18th 2020 at 7:46:12 AM
Actually, Thor the Bad One is the official start of the Infinity Quest. Prior to that movie, there was just the Tesseract, and Feige didn't actually confirm it was the Space Stone until the year Thor 2 came out. It was in moving the Reality Stone to Knowhere that it was established that there were two stones in play.
The Incredible Hulk, again, established that there were projects making knock-off Super Soldiers, which is important to Cap 2 and Civil War. But not more beyond that. But yeah, it's probably the most self-contained film. And Hulk's probably the most self-contained character. No pun intended.
Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 18th 2020 at 6:51:59 AM

But then again, we do that in the real world all the time.
Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 18th 2020 at 3:30:59 AM