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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If we talk about the movies, the Peak Humans would be guys like Natasha or Hawkeye.
Natasha is capable of fighting Bucky, but the moment she tries a direct physical confrontation, she is defeated in seconds.
For example:
- Peak Humans: Black Widow, Batroc and Hawkeye.
- Low-level superhumans: Super-soldiers, Gamora and Jessica Jones.
- Mid level superhumans: Spider-man and Loki.
- High superhumans.: Hulk and Thor.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jun 14th 2020 at 12:39:12 PM
Vision and Captain Marvel are probably the biggest cases so far of Adaptational Badass in the MCU.
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I'm personally unsure about that what with the introduction of Angela and Proxima Midnight and Black Swan and lets just say that there's a lot of competition and Gamora usually doesn't super impress.
She got 90% of her skin burned off by being too close to a sun in a dyson sphere once and walked it off. That did super impress.
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I don't think so. In Guardians 2, she was holding onto a chain that Drax was holding onto while the ship was crashing, with Drax smashing through tree after tree after tree, and she held onto that chain fine. Later in the film, she blew up Nebula's ship with a gigantic metal laser cannon over her shoulder the size of a room.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jun 14th 2020 at 12:55:32 PM
The biggest Adaptational Wimp case in the MCU (well, the one that bothers me the most anyways) would be the Nova Corps.
Edited by Forenperser on Jun 14th 2020 at 9:55:50 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianAs a general think, super hero adaptation always reduce super quite a bit, from DCCU Superman who can be knock out with a missile to Thor in Marvel who is good but no earth shattering good, movie avoid the "it can destroy entire army by themselves" and other wanking comic like to put every know and them.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Except for Catwoman, which decided its hero needed Ancient Egyptian cat powers.
Well Thor is close to destroying a whole army by himself at the end of Infinity War. And I'm really curious to see what they are going to do with Carol, who is on a completely different level than anything we had seen so far.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.If that's the case, and even though it's completely silly, I'd really like him to be the giant guy with handles on his helmet instead of another representation.
Edited by C105 on Jun 14th 2020 at 10:42:48 AM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
*7, I would say that the greatest example of Adaptational Wimp is Corvus, He went from being someone who is capable of fighting the Hulk to having trouble defeating normal humans.
It still bothers me that Okoye killed him like he was just a Mook.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jun 14th 2020 at 2:39:41 AM
"Peak human" is kind of a useless descriptor because it basically means "This character has superpowers but we're gonna say they don't."
Characters like Batman (and all of his sidekicks), Hawkeye, Shang-Chi and others regularly do things that are flat-out physically impossible, but the narrative pretends it's stuff normal people could do if they just trained hard enough.
Edited by comicwriter on Jun 14th 2020 at 5:18:54 AM
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Yep, there this general pretention of human chararter doing flat up supernatural stuff but be writen as huma ingenuity, or "he was just really good and awsome".
I call that the batman syndrome: chararter do stuff it should be imposible and the narrative and fan praise them because of that.
Edited by unknowing on Jun 14th 2020 at 8:19:42 AM
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Getting every last bone broken by an actual superhuman?
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