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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#118176: Jun 9th 2020 at 4:30:56 PM

I wouldn't mind if they had all the drones destroyed, and he rebuilds one from the scraps, but makes it much less lethal and more spider themed.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#118177: Jun 9th 2020 at 4:59:02 PM

Of note: one of the upcoming Disneyland attractions is a Spider-Man one that advertises customizable Spider Bots, much like Galaxy's Edge's build-a-droids.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#118178: Jun 9th 2020 at 5:22:26 PM

[up]Yeah, but those have been a thing in numerous mediums. The video game had him use them as scout cameras and had non-lethal weapons on them. Not too eyebrow raising.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#118179: Jun 9th 2020 at 7:00:38 PM

[up][up][up]Maybe he'll do that while he's on the run. While hiding in a cave? If only there was a line about that...

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#118180: Jun 9th 2020 at 7:23:40 PM

After catching up on the latest from of the Amazing Spider-Man's comics, my desire to have Kraven be the Big Bad of the next film only grows.

I like the plot idea that since the authorities (who must have gotten info from SHIELD) won't prosecute Spider-Man, Jameson puts a bounty on him a la the early comics or Spider-Man's comics Civil War stuff, resulting in a bunch of villains - Scorpion, etc, maybe even the Smythes / Spider-Slayers - coming out of the woodwork to cash in. The city turns into a warzone, but the biggest problem ends up being Kraven, an absolute psychopath who only cares about hunting and defeating a superhuman to prove his might.

Then halfway through Jameson realizes he's wrong and tries to call it off, but lol Kraven ain't having that. Then Spidey has to decide whether giving himself up is worth it to spare the city and all that jazz, whatever. The plot writes itself.

It could also (and did, in the comics) work with Scorpion and Spencer / Alistaire Smythe in the Big Bad slot and Kraven in one of the minor slots, or really any villain (though those fourth work the best for it), but I like Kraven the most for it. Though I guess mostly because he's fresh in my mind. I like the idea of the city just devolving into chaos as tons of minor supervillains hit the streets hunting Spidey, and ensemble cast of villains but not quite the Sinister Six.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 9th 2020 at 7:30:43 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#118181: Jun 9th 2020 at 8:18:57 PM

I really think Scorpion needs to be in the next film. All the pieces are in place, they just need to be fit together: he was introduced at the end of Homecoming, Spidey is on the run, JJJ is the one who put him on the run, JJJ in the comics made Scorpion as a superhero. If Scorpion starts out masquerading as a superhero, he can hunt Spidey who's on the run. It practically writes itself.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#118182: Jun 9th 2020 at 9:52:20 PM

[up][up]That's sort of what I was thinking too. Hmmm... While we know Thunderbolt Ross doesn't hate the heroes (he was at Stark's funeral and remorseful after all; he seems like he's just trying to do his job in an obstinate, By-the-Book Cop way), maybe he attempts to bring in Spider-Man using some sort of hybrid Thunderbolts/Sinister Six storyline that also plays into the Accords? That is, if they're still a thing in the wake of the Snap.

But I still like the idea of JJ whipping things up beyond either of their control, Kraven in particular. and if Kraven doesn't excessively endanger people, he may not end up inprisoned, and could be available for a bit part in a Black Panther sequel.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#118183: Jun 10th 2020 at 5:08:24 PM

I just watched this video.

What are the biggest Mephisto stories? I'm thinking of the various ways he could tie in to the MCU going forward.

  • The potential to tie in to Wandavision and/or Doctor Strange 2, as the video mentioned
  • Potentially reestablishing Peter's secret in Spider-Man... Homeless?, as a less shitty One More Day.
  • being an inspiration for Achebe in a Black Panther sequel.
  • Having some connection to vampires in Blade. Yes I know this one's a stretch.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 10th 2020 at 7:10:27 AM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#118184: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:11:17 PM

"Potentially reestablishing Peter's secret in Spider-Man... Homeless?, as a less shitty One More Day."

I hope not, that would be a very cowardly move on the part of the writers.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#118185: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:19:08 PM

Oh no!

ONE DAY MORE

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#118186: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:23:23 PM

They adapted Civil War, a similarly hated event, perfectly fine. I don't see why One More Day is taboo in this situation.

The legend has returned.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#118187: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:28:44 PM

The crux of One More Day was breaking up Peter and Mary Jane so that Pete could be Younger and Hipper. MCU Peter and MJ are still teens and have only just crossed the first date.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#118188: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:54:38 PM

Civil War had an interesting premise, it just ended up being written in a way that made beloved heroes seem like horrible people. The problem with adapting One More Day is that there was never a good idea behind One More Day in the first place.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#118189: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:57:16 PM

Forcing one of their most enduring couples to separate to fix what amounted to a publicity stunt in both sides of the fourth wall would always be a hard sell.

Wake me up at your own risk.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#118190: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:57:54 PM

[up], [up][up], [up][up][up][up]You're both right.

There's really no good reason for Peter to even find Mephisto, but "Home One Day" could be more about protecting May's safety, or that of people around him. Saaaaay, from Kraven.

And no, I don't want this idea at all.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 11th 2020 at 3:00:36 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#118191: Jun 11th 2020 at 12:59:05 PM

I've joked about it in the past, but at least according to this rumor site, there are plans to have Starfox in the MCU.

Not the anthropomorphic fox. Thanos' brother who has basically the same powers as the Purple Man and uses them the same way. But is a hero.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#118192: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:01:05 PM

So instead of Killgrave seeing someone and making them do something bad, Starfox sees someone and goes "Can't let you do that!"

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#118193: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:09:35 PM

Is he the guy who tried to stop a Hulk rampage by making him orgasm?

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#118194: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:28:11 PM

[up]... I really seem to be missing a lot by not reading enough comics.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#118195: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:33:43 PM

[up][up] yes

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#118196: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:35:33 PM

I feel sorry for the artist who had to draw that

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#118197: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:36:05 PM

Mephisto idea is just a deal with the devil which it can be made but...it feel out of place for spiderman.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#118198: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:37:14 PM

And they still have to do work on devils in the movies, I think.

Wake me up at your own risk.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#118199: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:39:10 PM

as bad as the ghost rider movie were, they were right to use mephisto on it, he seen the natural type to use against him.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#118200: Jun 11th 2020 at 1:51:02 PM

Also, they don't need a cosmic retcon for Peter's identity, they could just make a Skrull transform into Peter Parker.


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