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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The way I figure it, alternate dimensions either supersede the multiverse or vice-versa.
- Every universe in the multiverse has the same set of alternate dimensions, such as an afterlife and dream realm, which have their own counterparts throughout the multiverse.
- The entire multiverse exists within one dimension, and there are whole other dimensions with their own multiverses within them, such as dimensions with 5 dimensions of space.
Of course, it really comes down to semantics, maybe a better term for the former would be like "planes of existence", which are inside of the multiverse, which are contained within the dimension.
Or, more accurately, it is a word that has accrued multiple definitions over it's long use - in which case attempting to force an entirely unrelated definition in a context that is clearly not using it is reductive to the point of inaccuracy.
The weirdness mostly just comes up because it's not the usual comic book use, so it's a bit confusing. Multiverse in comic book stuff is typically used for "different self-contained, divergent reality" - so, like, a world where everyone is evil, or the world where everyone is in the 1700's, or the world where Spider-Man drives a gigantic mecha.
I remember when the movie's name was first announced, you had people assuming we were about to get, like, an MCU equivalent of, like, Spider-Verse because of it.
But what the movie actually seems to be doing is delving more into what the Marvel Comics would denote as dimensions: that is, different planes within the same reality. So the Dark Dimension, Nightmare Realm, Chaos Dimension, etc.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 6th 2020 at 3:00:01 AM
So soon we'll find out
My god, Pym particles could end world hunger!
But Bocaj, world hunger is not a case of the amount of food available!
Hush, you
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBut Bocaj, world hunger is not a case of the amount of food available!
Hush, you
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 6th 2020 at 9:22:59 AM
Yeah, with Pym particles you could enlarge food to solve world hunger and shrink garbage dumps to cut down on pollution!
... No wait, that was Professor Poopypants' plan for the Shrinky-Pig 2000 and the Goosey-Grow 4000 before he turned evil.
The Crisis Crossover episode of El Chavo del ocho and El Chapulín Colorado ends with el Chavo using Chapulin's shrink formula to make himself smaller so crumbs of food would be a whole meal for him. He effectively resolved his hunger issues for a few days.
My Marvel rewatching spree continues with Infinity War.
Y'know, if Ant-Man is the understated MVP of Endgame, Bruce is the same in Infinity War. His "we're all about to die, it doesn't matter who you're on speaking terms with" comment is still one of my favorite reality checks in the franchise.
I always forget that it was Quill's plan that nearly beat Thanos, even if it was ultimately him that screwed up it up. Something I still love, however, is Tony's reaction - he instantly knows what is about to happen and tries to get ahead of it, because it's the exact same dire mistake he made in Siberia during Civil War. He knows exactly what Quill is feeling and what he's about to do, but just like how Cap couldn't talk him down then, he can't talk Quill down now.
The movie making a joke about how Quill having to kill his dad - who killed his mom - isn't in the same league as Thor having to kill Hela still feels off to me, like the "he's adopted" joke in the first Avengers.
I still think they missed an opportunity to have Peter (Parker, not Quill) start to speak up when Tony and Strange are arguing on the ship, get them to focus even if a little bit, to show he's growing as a person. That said, the way the Russo's write Peter is still interesting. He's definitely portrayed in their movies as a bit more prone to fight, more willing to hurt people if need be (basically, like Cap), whereas in his own movies Peter still gets visibly shaken even when the bad guy kills themselves. On the other hand, I really like how in the final fight against Thanos he takes it upon himself to hop after everyone and make sure they're all safe.
The Vormir stuff is still gross, but everything else about Gamora in this movie is good, though it helps that most of the worst Guardians stuff the writers penned eventually got cut from the movie. I wish we could get a more focused Guardians of the Galaxy X Avengers movie.
Poor Vision. No romance in a superhero story ever really ends in happiness, but still. Poor Wanda, too. Hopefully she doesn't snap too hard in Wandavision.
Speaking of, they nailed Thor's "hiding the fact that he's self destructing" bit in this film, in a way that becomes even stronger after watching Endgame. That speech he makes about fate makes it clear that he's basically pinning his entire sense of self worth on whether he can make up for his first failure and kill Thanos. And then he doesn't. No wonder he ends up a complete wreck.
I'm looking forward to the universe getting bigger, as it has for the last few years, and am simultaneously sad that the limits of the film medium means that the older characters can't be there for whatever new heights the universe introduces.
I'm torn about the Guardians as a whole in this movie, but Rocket in particular is fantastic. His role is the kind of thing we come to crossovers to see: characters who never interact from entirely different "worlds" coming together and forming new and interesting dynamics. I still think Endgame subsequently kind of wasted him (and the rest of the Guardians, minus Nebula) overall, though.
Now that he's dead, something I really liked about Thanos as a villain was how incredibly, indomitably conceited he was. How assured he was that he was the inevitable truth of the universe, that everyone with a perception that differed was just blinded by emotion or ignorance or ego, that thus everyone would be grateful to him once his work was done, how wanting to undo his crimes was just a sign his enemies were weak and childish, and all in all positioned himself as the end point of the story of the universe. I like how, in the end of it all, all he can do is just sit down and take how all the images he had of himself literally went up in dust.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 7th 2020 at 12:04:14 PM
I would've said T'Challa or Rocket was the understated MVP of Infinity War... on the hero side. Overall, I loved Ebony Maw, and really wish we could catch him in another movie somehow. Maybe as the Big Bad of a Nova prequel film, showing him leading the mission that wrecked Xandar?
I'm actually kinda bugged by how much Drax got sidelined. Mantis less so, until we can actually see more of her actually fighting. Drax needs to teach her! Groot... I've never really liked how they've used Groot as an actual character. I think they're underutilizing Vin Diesel... Apparently the only film he did motion capture for Groot was Guardians 2? And not even the dancing scene?
My Infinity War MVP nomination goes to Spidey. He saved the day in the NYC battle, came up with the plan to beat Maw, and played his part perfectly in the Thanos fight besides the one time he got chokeslammed.
Honorable mention goes to Mantis, who punched way above her (MCU-version) weight class by subduing Thanos. Although, I suppose it also says something about Thanos's fortitude that Mantis struggled to keep him sedated, when she didn't have any visible trouble pacifying an entire living planet in Guardians 2.
I wish Drax had more screentime with Thanos. I get that the last two Avengers movies already had a ton of plot, but it kinda sucks that Drax's main "I must avenge my family by killing Thanos" plot stem didn't bear fruit either one.
Edited by MileRun on Jun 7th 2020 at 1:17:48 AM
No it happened in the Geoff Johns run of Avengers
And later in Uncanny Avengers Wasp reveals that she and Hank used to be members of the hellfire club, the kinky part of the club, not the world domination part
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Really, most people get "dimensions" wrong. To quote Dr. Freeman:
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 6th 2020 at 5:35:05 AM