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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#118026: Jun 5th 2020 at 4:26:06 PM

The Gifted is probably one of the most tone-deaf shows about prejudice I've ever seen. When it does superhero stuff it's neat, but it really hurts the show that the main cast is a middle-class white family, and the supporting cast is made up of racial stereotypes (the Native American tracker, the Mexican with connections to the cartel, etc). The supporting cast does get a decent amount of development, but it doesn't really make the racial stereotypes surrounding them much better.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#118027: Jun 5th 2020 at 4:40:11 PM

The bungling of much of the supporting cast in the X-Men movies is definitely a part of why I just stick with Logan and the Deadpools.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#118028: Jun 5th 2020 at 5:11:27 PM

Deadpool amazingly handles the supporting X-Men better.

Colussus is actually a character.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 5th 2020 at 5:17:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#118029: Jun 5th 2020 at 5:16:35 PM

And actually russian.

Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#118030: Jun 5th 2020 at 5:19:35 PM

"Logan and the Deadpools" is a good band name by the way.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#118032: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:18:22 PM

As... let's say special as The Last Stand is, it has a pretty good moral dilemma in the initial conflict. Would it be the right thing to give up being a mutant to have a normal life or would it be the right thing to completely denounce the cure as a symbol of hatred?

The legend has returned.
MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#118033: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:22:39 PM

[up][up]Plot twist: It's the Disney version of Hercules. They're trying to weave all the Disney properties into the MCU, starting with the Disney Animated Canon.

Teemo from Nottingham, UK (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: In another castle
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#118035: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:24:48 PM

[up][up][up]It depends on the mutant. Storm is cool, but Hank is a big blue furry, Rogue can't touch anyone lest she drains their life force and unless he wants to destroy everything within his visual range, Scott is basically either blind or colorblind.

Edited by Blueace on Jun 5th 2020 at 10:25:55 AM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#118036: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:29:10 PM

[up][up] Hey, wasn’t the Disney movie with Hercules a musical? I don’t usually go for action flicks, but I would pay good money to see that bit integrated into the MCU.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#118037: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:32:26 PM

In the comics at least being a big blue furry worked wonders for Beast's dating life.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#118038: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:32:52 PM

Sad hes more like a furry goblin now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#118039: Jun 5th 2020 at 7:36:52 PM

[up][up][up][up] And this kind of thing is why I think X-Men makes a pretty terrible metaphor for real minorities. Their situation is vastly different, even from one individual to another. Being able to fire laser beams, or kill people with a touch, is just so incomparable that you inevitably get aesops that come off wrong, or don't make sense in universe, or don't really apply to reality.

Edit: [nja]

Edited by FGHIK on Jun 5th 2020 at 9:37:16 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#118041: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:01:07 PM

I usually don't like Tumblr posts, but hot damn, all four of them were gold.

The legend has returned.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#118042: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:03:23 PM

I'll never forget Aaron McGruder's take on Storm, after the first movie came out.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#118043: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:08:09 PM

[up]That is pretty good.

I just want Large Ham 90’s Storm in my movies. Summoning the Arctic winds and lightning THAT IS THE FURY OF NATURE! Put simply I want Storm to be the most memorable damn thing on screen.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#118044: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:10:55 PM

[up][up] What about th mohawk though? tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#118045: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:13:03 PM

I'd like to observe while the Storm joke is hilarious, it's also a recurring point of Storm that her powers has severe drawbacks, usually with the implication that she needs to keep a grip on her emotions or she can accidentally lay a tornado on people. This is even the case in the movies, though it isn't focused on (there's a scene in Last Stand I believe where Storm gets mildly miffed at events and a storm starts to brew without her realizing before Xavier tells her to calm down).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#118046: Jun 5th 2020 at 9:02:47 PM

Also her claustrophobia.

"I'm gonna create [...] a token white woman and give her a big ol' nappy fro — see how they like it!"

The sad part is I think too many white people would like it. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 5th 2020 at 9:08:37 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#118047: Jun 5th 2020 at 9:08:46 PM

Infinity War / Endgame thought:

I just watched New Rockstars' youtube video on Endgame details, and found a big one: Tony may have doomed himself.

When Doctor Strange was looking at alternate futures, it's possible he found the timeline in which they win earlier than the 14,000,605 that he stopped at, but kept looking in order to find ways that no one dies. Tony actually interrupts the ongoing search by walking up to him, startling Doctor Strange by the one important sacrifice presenting himself. We know there's more than 14,000,605 possible futures, because the Ancient One has already stated that she can only look to timelines in which she herself is alive (there's no reason to believe Strange doesn't also have this limitation). Strange wasn't looking for timelines in which the Snap was undone, because every timeline he looked at had to have the Snap undone (or not happen prior to his death by other means) for Strange to be present. So those 14,000,605 have to be timelines in which the Snap *stayed* undone. There could've been other iterations of the final battle in which someone was close enough to Thanos to prevent him from putting on the gauntlet, or cut off his hands. But, the Iron Man armor was the only tool known to remove the stones themselves, and Iron Man had it on him, so the winning timeline is the one in which he's closest, since the glove and stones would otherwise be near impossible to remove once Thanos put it on.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#118048: Jun 5th 2020 at 11:44:21 PM

Also her claustrophobia.

That's not a result of her powers though.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#118049: Jun 5th 2020 at 11:55:41 PM

Rewatching Captain Marvel.

I kind of hope Talos' daughter is a character in stuff that follows Monica Rambeau. The idea of having this character who grew up with an alien best friend sounds pretty fun.

Also makes me interest how close Fury and Talos became, given how Fury trusts him to be him later on. I'm kind of expecting Talos to end up like Coulson eventually, so I hope he gets more moments of making relationships with the MCU cast.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#118050: Jun 6th 2020 at 1:15:25 AM

Strange wasn't looking for timelines in which the Snap was undone, because every timeline he looked at had to have the Snap undone (or not happen prior to his death by other means) for Strange to be present.

There's also the possibility that he saw timelines where he wasn't targeted by the Snap.


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