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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#117976: Jun 4th 2020 at 1:47:06 PM

I’d recommend Idris Elba solely because Marvel is a black Superman & Elba already played one in Hobbs & Shaw. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117977: Jun 4th 2020 at 1:50:41 PM

[up] If you want to be technical, his character was black Deathstroke or black evil Midnighter.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#117978: Jun 4th 2020 at 1:52:45 PM

Idris Elba is definitely the first guy to come to mind whenever I think of “older black actor”, though I admit I don’t know too many others. Who else is there?

Oh God! Natural light!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117979: Jun 4th 2020 at 1:54:54 PM

Ernie Hudson would be my pick for Blue Marvel. He's already got experience with dealing with the extra-dimensional. [lol] Or Andre Braugher instead.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#117980: Jun 4th 2020 at 1:56:04 PM

Will Smith grin

Though I don't think he would be a good fit....

Jaime Foxx could be great. And he would fit right in next to all the other MCU actors who got their breakthrough after previously starring in crappy, non-MCU marvel adaptations.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#117981: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:06:32 PM

I feel like one of the previous Spider-Men should get a role as a Spider-Man villain because that'd be really funny.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#117982: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:09:02 PM

I mean, hey, Brie Larson's Captain Marvel hasn't aged in thirty years, apparently. And was already younger-looking than canon Captain Marvel when her movie takes place.

Also, imagine the delicious rage of when the chuds see John Boyega's Blue Marvel, a black Superman analogue who, in the style of MCU Captain Marvel, is one of the most powerful beings in the setting.

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ChumlyX1995 Since: Jan, 2020
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117984: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:15:11 PM

@windleopard: He means Elba's character literally called himself "Black Superman".

[up][up]actually that would be funny.

I'm still team Isaiah Mustafa, though. 46 years old.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 4th 2020 at 5:17:35 AM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#117985: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:15:20 PM

...That is a good pick.

I'll also say Keith David. Though he might be too old. He did just turn 64 today.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117986: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:18:54 PM

Oh man, he could work! And I really enjoy his work.

Carl Weathers (72) is already working with Disney, but he might be too old.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#117987: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:19:35 PM

EDIT: Stupid timestamp wouldn't work.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Jun 4th 2020 at 6:21:24 AM

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ChumlyX1995 Since: Jan, 2020
#117988: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:20:04 PM

But is the MCU going to adapt the Blue Marvel first or the Sentry?

Edited by ChumlyX1995 on Jun 4th 2020 at 3:20:22 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#117989: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:20:40 PM

@ Son of Sharknado - I like it, especially with the parallel to Larson.

Speaking of, Captain Marvel is also an example where having a character being Older Than They Look can make for interesting dynamics.

I'm interested to see what the relationship will be like between Carol and the now adult Monica Rambeau. Kind of a weird situation when your Cool Aunt hasn't aged a day in 20-plus years (and kind of ditched you during the intervening time).

Edited by Hodor2 on Jun 4th 2020 at 5:28:09 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117990: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:32:06 PM

I do feel like Isaiah can nail the "heartbroken but responsible" aspects of the character. Hell, he's already played (Spoilers for It: Chapter Two) a character who was shut out from and secluded himself from the world to focus on knowledge before finally being called back to action and responsibility.

Plus then we can see this as Blue Marvel sharing a drug trip with Professor Xavier and making a murder pact to kill Erik Selvig's son Zeitgeist.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jun 4th 2020 at 5:50:52 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117991: Jun 4th 2020 at 3:53:07 PM

I'll also say Keith David.

Same, having been replaying Halo 2 all mouth. grin

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117992: Jun 4th 2020 at 8:08:47 PM

I really, really wanted Keith David to play Dormammu. If he shows up now, I hope he gets a role of similar gravitas, that can make best use of his amazing voice. Mephisto, or Shuma Gorath, a god or celestial or what have you.

Come to think of it, I know they said ages ago that the villain of Dr. Strange 2 was going to be Nightmare, but going by description and name and general concept Multiverse of Madness feels a hell of a lot like a Shuma Gorath movie.

And, hey, Nightmare was a minion of Shuma's at one point in time...

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 4th 2020 at 8:12:39 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117993: Jun 4th 2020 at 8:27:06 PM

Hmm, cosmic... Since we are discussing The Ultimates casting, maybe Keith David could voice Galactus if the character were to move in the direction of the emotional Lifebringer after first being the impassive Devourer.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#117994: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:00:19 PM

Who could play America Chavez?
Also, are there any other Hispanic or Latinx characters of note in Marvel? A quick wiki search tells me there's Sam-Nova, but no one else that really stands out to me outside of Miguel (Spider-Verse).

On a semi-related note, I'm looking for a role for Pedro Pascal, since I really want him in the MCU. Kraven? Kl'rt?

Huh! Coogler originally wanted to include Kraven in some capacity in Black Panther. Also, with the Heart-Shaped Herb gone...

Wait, why does Kraven's wiki page list him as having "Ultra Instinct"? Is that a thing outside of Dragon Ball?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#117995: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:02:39 PM

There's the White Tigers, but they are gonna need to do something to make them visibly distinct from T'Challah.

There is also Miles, though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#117996: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:09:27 PM

I just thought of Reptile who’s power is to transform into dinosaurs.

Also this character isn’t of Latin/Hispanic descent but Hazmat would provide some Asian rep. Her boyfriend Mettle is also a black Jewish Hawaiian going by his character page.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 4th 2020 at 10:11:22 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117997: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:33:23 PM

Also, are there any other Hispanic or Latinx characters of note in Marvel?

X-Men's Bobby Da Costa aka Sun Spot who is Afro-Brazilian. There is also Julio Esteban Richter aka Rictor.

There's the White Tigers, but they are gonna need to do something to make them visibly distinct from T'Challah.

They already are.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#117998: Jun 4th 2020 at 11:00:29 PM

Rictor also has the added benefits of being homosexual & married to the bisexual Shatterstar.

So obvious power couple there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117999: Jun 4th 2020 at 11:07:34 PM

Assuming Disney let's them be a couple on screen.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#118000: Jun 4th 2020 at 11:11:14 PM

It be incredible if they did though.

Especially since it be a humongous boost for the 2. Both are pretty B-List characters with only Shatterstar having a cinematic appearance & that was Deadpool 2's X-Force joke. It was a funny joke sure, but ya know still a waste of good characters.

They'd be fucking icons.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 4th 2020 at 11:22:12 AM

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