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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#117701: May 25th 2020 at 11:05:27 AM

" But T'Challa didn't seem to answer for his actions in South Korea (Diplomatic immunity? It definitely wasn't sanctioned by the UN)"

He neither get even a waring for running in his personal vendetta in vienna, or the fact he was a superhero without nobody else know it.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#117702: May 25th 2020 at 11:35:02 AM

Presumably, as Wakanda's Head of State, T'Challa can simply declare himself to be a member of the Wakandan army and officially sanction himself to conduct military operations in Germany. The German government's not gonna be happy about him violating their sovereignty, but that's the sort of diplomatic kerfuffle that governments iron out all the time.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#117703: May 25th 2020 at 11:40:46 AM

Thats what we call

an international accident

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117704: May 25th 2020 at 12:19:40 PM

He'll probably wiggle out of it the same way Thaddeus Ross wiggled out of having to explain sending American troops into Brazil and wrecking a factory when trying to catch a fugitive. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 25th 2020 at 12:20:31 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117705: May 25th 2020 at 1:20:49 PM

I'm reminded once again why Ross was the absolute worse person to put in charge of superheroes.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#117706: May 25th 2020 at 1:26:01 PM

The idiot who sent troops to attack a guy that can turn into an unstoppable rage monster on a college campus in broad daylight? Dude has nothing to say about how to stop crisis from getting worse.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#117707: May 25th 2020 at 1:34:50 PM

But then again that was 8 years ago and he seemed to have done something right / different to be promoted to Secretary of State.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#117708: May 25th 2020 at 1:44:32 PM

He just sat quietly after the Mandarin incident that involved the Vice-President and the whole debacle after Hydra got outed.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#117709: May 25th 2020 at 1:57:33 PM

It’s not surprising that he most likely got promoted for doing nothing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#117710: May 25th 2020 at 2:03:55 PM

Ross Wins By Doing Absolutely Nothing.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#117711: May 25th 2020 at 2:06:03 PM

Yeah, I always sound I found vaguely plausible because of that. The US should be in abject chaos by now given the emergence of two massive military-industrial conspiracies in the span of less than five years.

Ross got kicked upstairs probably solely on seniority.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#117713: May 25th 2020 at 2:28:48 PM

Well, we know Ross had some humbling experiences, repented on his obsessions, decided to take a more by the book approach, and stayed in well situated positions without getting caught up in any big conspiracy. He's done nothing but show himself to be trustworthy and reliable after the Hulk incidents.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#117714: May 25th 2020 at 10:59:09 PM

What is intersting is that nobody on wakanda call out tchalla but going into a man hunt, throwing into a battle he have very little stakes and outing is identity as superhero which led to other questions(like, how is that a third world country suddenly have a superhero capable of going toe to toe with cap america?).

Because if I was nalkia, his mother or shuri I will bitching him for no day to end after that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117715: May 25th 2020 at 11:15:25 PM

Given the way Wakanda was all for him being all "let's go on a mission into foreign territory to hunt down the guy who humiliated us decades ago" - which ended up with his existence being revealed on a much wider scale - with the only backlash from them happening because he didn't end up getting the guy he was after, I'd say Wakandans are pretty okay with reckless retribution as long as it bears fruit.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 25th 2020 at 11:19:25 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#117716: May 26th 2020 at 12:25:03 AM

You know things are bad when Thunderbolt Ross is one of the most reasonable senior members of the government / military.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#117717: May 26th 2020 at 12:27:10 AM

He is a complete son of a bitch but at least hes not a Nazi.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#117719: May 26th 2020 at 4:56:36 AM

Context for [up]: One of the reasons Steve was successfully revived from the ice was because SHIELD had info on defrosting super soldiers...and that was because HYDRA (which was hiding within SHIELD) had the information because they defrosted Bucky much earlier.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117720: May 26th 2020 at 5:43:06 AM

That’s equally fridge hoisted by their own petard since Steve has no small part in kicking Hydra’s ass

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#117721: May 26th 2020 at 7:00:53 AM

Eh, maybe they just used the defrost setting on their microwaves.

...Does anyone know how/if that actually works?

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#117722: May 26th 2020 at 7:24:04 AM

There was a Tumblr post SOMEWHERE where some medical types did post how challenging it would be to thaw out a human being safely they outlined the process.

It was similar to how we revive victims of hypothermia and how you have to be VERY CAREFUL with how and how fast you thaw the victim or else you could accidently kill off tissue so in theory its possible its most likely because Steve was a Super Soldier that he survived not only being frozen but also the thawing process.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#117723: May 26th 2020 at 7:35:50 AM

...by "how/if" that works, I mean the defrost setting on a microwave, not defrosting a human.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#117724: May 26th 2020 at 7:38:02 AM

My mom uses it for chicken, and it definitely does do something. I think the microwave just bombards the food with microwaves at an extremely low level.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#117725: May 27th 2020 at 11:40:52 PM

Put your Capsicle into the microwave for 2 minutes.


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