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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#117676: May 21st 2020 at 5:48:38 PM

It'd be hilarious if their reverse-engineered Pym Particles backfired like when Cross tried to replicate them, so they all ended up as tiny globs once they arrived in 2023.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117677: May 21st 2020 at 5:50:49 PM

or an even more gigantic Leviathan

Thanos wipes out Earth by just dropping a Pym-grown Leviathan from orbit.

If Ultron had one of those he would've won.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#117678: May 21st 2020 at 8:12:59 PM

I think the reason Quill gets a lot of hate is that moment where he tries to revenge kill Thanos at the most inopportune time. That feels like a moment Drax should have had, because with him, at least it's in character.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117679: May 21st 2020 at 8:23:12 PM

Drax really got shafted in importance throughout both films.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117681: May 21st 2020 at 8:25:24 PM

The ultimate trick Batista learned from John Cena.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#117682: May 22nd 2020 at 7:42:45 AM

He was wearing stealth camouflage like that Ninja

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117683: May 22nd 2020 at 7:46:52 AM

Drax should have gotten more but he already screwed up by jumping out to attack Thanos at Knowhere

It would have given him an extra character beat of screwing things up again

It’s more a surprise that Peter screws up because even though he IS a screw up he generally fails in the right direction

While Drax also drew Ronan on them in the first gotg movie so. It’d be a not great pattern for him

Edited by Bocaj on May 22nd 2020 at 10:47:14 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#117684: May 22nd 2020 at 8:43:51 AM

Yeah, Peter screwing up is a surprise. Then again, he was clearly very worried about Gamora, and he'd just lost Yondu not too long ago. The guy's life is a history of losing the people he loves in the worst ways.

Heh. Drax drew in Ronan. Rocket took the Batteries, and now Quill loses his shit against Ronan. It would have been nice to see Gamora and Mantis screw up too. Groot as well. Then things would at least be fair.

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#117685: May 22nd 2020 at 9:04:28 AM

Peter's freak out on Titan is a nice call back to Tony's freak out in Civil War, the worst possible news at the worst possible moment that leads to a pure emotional outburst that while the wrong thing to do...you can understand why it happens.

I can't really hate on Peter for that moment because if it was really that critical the man who knows what needs to happen so they all win in the end (Strange) would have taken some measure to STOP Peter before this all started. Warned Peter before the fight started what he saw "In my vision, when Thanos comes he'll have the Soul Stone, I'm sorry but that does not bode well for your friend...prepare for the worst."

Imagine Strange's POV here, he's hearing the plan being made he knows they are going to get a brief moment of hope that its actually going to work, and then it will all go to hell and there isn't a damn thing he can do to stop it.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117686: May 22nd 2020 at 9:09:37 AM

I guess Groot screwed up the prison break, although they salvaged that

And Gamora going to Knowhere where she knew Thanos might be when she’s the only one who knows where the soul stone is was a huge screw up

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#117687: May 22nd 2020 at 9:14:03 AM

[up] That I kinda agree with, she tried a failsafe "Kill me if it looks like he'll capture me". I understand why she didn't tell anybody she knew that big secret and she figured nobody else aside from Nebula knew. She didn't know that Nebula had a Judas recording system in her head that Thanos could read like a book and thusly figured out she lied about the Soul Stone.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#117688: May 22nd 2020 at 9:26:56 AM

Here's a What If? scenario I'd love to see: what if Nebula not only stayed with the Guardians at the end of their 2nd movie but successfully killed Thanos before the events of Infinity War with their help? That'd pretty much prevent at least two movies' events from even happening, and cause another one to be largely overhauled.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on May 22nd 2020 at 9:27:18 AM

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#117689: May 22nd 2020 at 9:37:16 AM

Heck if the Thanos/Gamora/Nebula from 2014 had been allowed to proceed and 2023!Nebula was able to port out back to 2023 would have changed everything. Gamora would then KNOW about the recording tech in Nebula see the info can be pulled against her will and NEVER tell Nebula about the Soul Stone.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#117690: May 22nd 2020 at 1:05:23 PM

So is Runaways Season 3 any worth watching?

I somehow completely lost the motivation to watch it after hearing that the PRIDE parents get off scot free after everything they've done.

Edited by Forenperser on May 22nd 2020 at 10:05:31 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117691: May 22nd 2020 at 1:26:42 PM

Man, I want MODOK in the MCU. We've moving in a less grounded, comic booky direction for the last few years, and MODOK would be the perfect way to show that.

He'd be pretty neat for a Fantastic Four movie, though tbh the Four don't exactly need bolstering in the villain department. He's still a high pick for me as a secondary villain in Captain Marvel 2, though.

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#117692: May 22nd 2020 at 1:36:11 PM

Not only do they get off scot free, they more or less transition to good guys. It's a problem that I think was borne from the show being reluctant to end. The Pride were always Villain Deuteragonists in the first and second seasons, having as much if not more development than the titular Runaways. And they made up the majority of the cast, having two Pride members for every one Runaway.

I think the showrunners were reluctant to jettison that many of their stars all at once, so they found ways to keep the plot centered on the Pride members after their initial arc was complete, with the Pride were themselves fighting the villains too.

That only a minority of important characters actually survive the final act of the Runaways' introductory story is one of those "makes sense in hindsight" things. Makes me think that maybe a TV series wasn't actually a great platform for the Runaways after all.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#117693: May 22nd 2020 at 2:48:51 PM

If you take the first and third trade paperbacks of the original run and cut out the second, you've got something that's almost exactly the right amount of story for a movie.

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#117694: May 22nd 2020 at 3:03:52 PM

By second meaning "the random vampire subplot that only existed to troll Joss Whedon". tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 22nd 2020 at 3:07:24 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117695: May 22nd 2020 at 5:26:01 PM

I'm watching a video of callbacks in the Endgame Battle, and I realized something that it and most videos don't point out. There's a couple of times in the battle where Cap reacts to an auditory clue or visual clue with more pinpoint accuracy than anyone else. It could be lazy writing, or it could be the fact that he has enhanced senses coming into play. Plus his history as an artist. The pinpoint accuracy is of course suggested by when he threw the hammer past Spider-Man.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#117696: May 25th 2020 at 8:06:12 AM

In Civil War, is the issue of "the Avengers blow quite a lot of stuff up when fighting villains and on occasion indirectly kill civilians by doing so" ever really addressed? There's no mention of the pro-Accords side training to be more efficient and blow less stuff up, at least not that I remember.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117697: May 25th 2020 at 8:54:06 AM

The Fifty State Initiative had a training camp

Don’t know if established heroes were asked to do some refresher no collateral damage courses

I do know that in She Hulk’s tie in to Civil War a big deal was made out of her taking down I wanna say absorbing man without much collateral damage and Tony thinking of making her one of the faces of registration

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117698: May 25th 2020 at 9:55:32 AM

[up][up]Do you mean in the comics or in the movie?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117699: May 25th 2020 at 10:49:24 AM

Oh well in the movie the pro-accords avengers cause less collateral damage after because civil war breaks them as a team and they don’t really do much after

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#117700: May 25th 2020 at 11:03:12 AM

I get the indication the Accords really didn't work in practice. Spider-Man was seemingly working with the Accords by keeping Tony up-to-date about his heroics, and the Avengers (what was left of them) did seem to still be on active duty. But T'Challa didn't seem to answer for his actions in South Korea (Diplomatic immunity? It definitely wasn't sanctioned by the UN), Scott and Clint seemed to get off relatively light for violating international law (although I think they turned themselves in for lighter sentencing), and once the Black Order started their search for the Infinity Stones, Ross seemed more concerned with arresting the fugitive Avengers than trying to figure out a way to stop the invading alien forces.

Edited by chasemaddigan on May 25th 2020 at 2:04:17 PM


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