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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
In Digimon Tamers, Gallantmon uses his cape like a bullfighter during his fight with Beezlemon.
Dukemon being bullfighter, while Beelzebumon is bull is a bit of funny image.
Edited by jouXIII on May 5th 2020 at 10:55:34 PM
I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable personI remember the Gwenpool comic had a brutal subversion of that. When he shows up at the end of her first arc, Gwen bursts out laughing and snarks about how MODOK is a ridiculous joke who the comics never take seriously... and then MODOK fries her friend to a smoldering corpse.
If I remember correctly there's a couple of novels that portray MODOK dead straight and a video game that makes him a the Big Bad who succeeds in destroying reality a bunch of times.
Edited by Bullman on May 5th 2020 at 5:47:09 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadIf you want some specifics, we have MODOK from Marvel Future Fight, and the '70s and '80s line of novels labeled as a Complete Monster. So there are adaptations where he's taken seriously as a threat.
The MCU technically did have MODOK as the Big Bad for the Iron Man 3 mobile game, but it was revealed in the final boss fight that he was Aldrich Killian again. They probably won't go that route if they decide to bring him into the films.
That sounds so bad... Like Killian's just making a job out of stealing other villains' names, and making it laughable to the observer. Like he's trolling the fans.
And speaking of MODOK in relation to trolling, here's his mvc3 theme.
I remember back when this was a minor meme. Good times, good times.
I think the most threatening MODOK's been outside the comics was Iron Man: Armored Adventures
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I remember being pissed at the fans' reaction to MODOK when MVC3 revealed him. It was basically fans familiar with the character going "ooh, that's an interesting villain pick" and fighting game fans in full on Complacent Gaming Syndrome going "this guy isn't Captain Commando / Venom / Gambit / whatever! He looks silly! Clearly he's a nobody character and the devs are just trolling us by pretending he's not!"
I probably remember it more because there were a lot of things gamers were doing at around that time that annoyed me, but TBH when I say "MODOK's got it bad," that specific reaction is one of the big things I think of.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2020 at 5:41:06 AM
Hahaha Spiral and Marrow got into MVC?
That settles it, X-Men had it too good
Edited by Bocaj on May 5th 2020 at 9:02:32 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThis is the Marvel side of the rosters from throughout the MVC series:
- X-Men vs Street Fighter: Cyclops, Gambit, Juggernaut, Magneto, Rogue, Sabretooth, Storm, Wolverine
- Marvel vs Street Fighter: Blackheart, Captain America, Cyclops, Hulk, Omega Red, Shuma-Gorath, Spider-Man, Wolverine
- I can't believe Shuma-Gorath was in this early on.
- Marvel vs Capcom: Captain America, Gambit, Hulk, Spider-Man, Venom, War Machine, Wolverine
- That's right, War Machine was in MVC before Iron Man.
- Marvel vs Capcom 2: Blackheart, Cable, Captain America, Colossus, Cyclops, Doctor Doom, Gambit, Hulk, Iceman, Iron Man, Juggernaut, Magneto, Marrow, Omega Red, Psylocke, Rogue, Sabretooth, Sentinel, Shuma-Gorath, Silver Samurai, Spider-Man, Spiral, Storm, Thanos, Venom, War Machine, Wolverine
- The original EVERYONE IS HERE.
- Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3: Captain America, Deadpool, Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Ghost Rider, Hawkeye, Hulk, Iron Fist, Iron Man, MODOK, Magneto, Nova, Pheonix, Rocket Raccoon, Sentinel, She-Hulk, Shuma-Gorath, Spider-Man, Storm, Super-Skrull, Taskmaster, Thor, X-23
- Tons of characters were removed, but it did take until this game to get Pheonix, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange, Thor, and Hawkeye.
- Marvel vs Capcom Infinite: Black Panther, Black Widow, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Gamora, Ghost Rider, Hawkeye, Hulk, Iron Man, Nova, Rocket Raccoon, Spider-Man, Thanos, Thor, Ultron, Venom, Winter Soldier
- No more X-Men or F4 characters, but it did take until this game to get Black Panther, Ultron, Captain Marvel, and Black Widow.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 5th 2020 at 6:40:19 AM
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Yeah, I admit it. Ultimate MvC3 was my intro to Rocket...
Man, it bites how much MvC: I was lacking...
Anyway, out of nowhere, apparently there's some buzz going on saying Disney+ is developing more MCU shows,
including one on S.W.O.R.D., which will be a prelude
to the next Captain Marvel movie.
Its title? Secret Invasion.
("Wait, but aren't the Skrulls good guys?")
The ones we saw in CM (and Spider-Man: Far From Home) were, but maybe not all of them got the memo? It would be one hell of a way to introduce Norman Osborn, who played a pretty meaty role in the Secret Invasion storyline. Moreover, CM2 is apparently an ensemble movie the same way Captain America: Civil War was? (Though that was probably already brought up?)
The most egregious bits to me are that it took until MVC2 to get Iron Man, and until MVC3 to get Pheonix (when the series STARTED with the X-Men) and Thor. Also that the series started with the X-Men and cut them out of the most recent installment.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 5th 2020 at 6:42:30 AM

This is something very important that I wish got said more.
A lot of times, when comics characters get introduced to the general public who don't really know or care about comics beyond knee jerk reactions, you get reactions a la "this character looks silly, ergo they must be meant as a joke" or "this character looks weird, ergo they can't possibly be dangerous," which is not something that's particularly accurate about comics - where outlandish designs are part of the fun.
But with adaptations, this gets worse because - especially in the past - a lot of execs are of the "don't know or care about comics beyond knee jerk reactions."
Not just with physical appearance, really, but a lot of good concepts remain unknown by the public simply because an exec took one glance at them and called them "too risky." Film studios abhor risk, and they're especially not going to take risks on a medium they don't take seriously in the first place. This is slowly changing, but it's slow going.
Ironically, I've found the best way to convince the general public that X thing isn't silly is just to write/create a good adaptation - and now the general perception of the character is what that adaptation presented. Most comics characters the public consider A-Listers are that way because they were in a memorable adaptation in a memorable way.
But this gets worse also when writers and artists internalize these memes, and suddenly characters canonically become jokes because it's memetic for them to considered such. This is what's happened to MODOK, for instance - where him getting an adaptation gets more and more unlikely as everyone involved gets increasingly convinced he shouldn't be taken seriously.
Wow that turned into more of a rant than I intended.
I remember this was a gag in Darkwing Duck - Darkwing has a rip-proof cape, and the whole episode it gets him into trouble, until the end where Negaduck mocks him for it, only for his tearaway cape to prevent him from getting pulled away from an explosion.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2020 at 12:19:29 PM