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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#117402: May 3rd 2020 at 4:34:44 AM

She will be that super on the nose Irish lass who broke her leg on a table.

Just Makima.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#117403: May 3rd 2020 at 7:56:05 AM

I'd guess presumably an Asgardian. Maybe Valkyrie will reassemble the Valkyries?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117404: May 3rd 2020 at 9:07:35 AM

[up][up][up]Hopefully her character (in wrestling) will have recovered from having gone stale by then.

[up]Ooooh, that'd be a cool idea! Though I'd rather have Sasha and Charlotte fill out the Valkyries. Ooh, and Lita and Beth Phoenix and Gail Kim.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 3rd 2020 at 11:13:10 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117405: May 3rd 2020 at 10:38:51 AM

Given what's coming up and is in need of casting, just visually speaking I'm guessing she's playing either Titania in She-Hulk, or Moonstone in Captain Marvel 2.

Thinking it over a bit more, Titania makes loads of sense.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2020 at 10:44:33 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#117406: May 3rd 2020 at 10:45:04 AM

What are the odds the fold Nextwave in to Monica Rambeau working with SWORD or whoever?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#117407: May 3rd 2020 at 10:47:08 AM

She does have the right hair colour.

But Titania is supposed to be a massive giant of a woman (same as She-Hulk when transformed).

Becky is only 5'6, while Titania is 6'6.

Edit: Also, I know everyone has been calling bullshit on Whedon's belief that the Avengers are completely unstoppable once they are all moving in the same direction, so their only enemy is really themselves, and while I'll agree that Ultron maybe wasn't as big a threat as he could have been (he probably needed a bit more build up for one), and that the group constantly fighting amongst itself should have stopped being a thing after the first movie...

Don't the events of both Infinity War and Endgame kinda prove him right.

The team lost badly when they were scattered (Thor heading to Ndavaleir(sp), Tony in space with Strange and Spidey, and the others on earth), while when they came together as a team in Endgame with a united purpose, they travelled through time and space itself, undid a universal disaster, and then when the person who defeated them came from the past to challenge them again, gathered up an army from all over that newly restored universe to beat his purple chinned ass into the ground.

So....yeah. Avengers Assemble baby.

Edited by HandsomeRob on May 3rd 2020 at 1:18:58 PM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#117408: May 3rd 2020 at 12:30:23 PM

Titania makes a lot of sense.

I wouldn't think Moonstone though. I have no idea how good of an actress Lynch is, but I'd think for that kind of role (ditto She-Hulk herself), you'd probably prioritize acting talent over pre-existing muscles. And since Carol isn't particularly muscle-bound, I wouldn't expect Moonstone to be either.

Personally, I like Gillian Jacobs for Moonstone.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#117409: May 4th 2020 at 8:28:20 AM

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It is possible that this version of Titania is going to be a Pint-Sized Powerhouse compared to She-Hulk.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117410: May 4th 2020 at 8:35:02 AM

Kinda like how Jackman's Wolverine is tall, because otherwise he was a good fit.

I dunno. Just thinking of upcoming Marvel projects, Titania feels like the first option for "who would they hire a professional wrestler to play?" She's, like, the bruiser's bruiser when it comes to supervillains.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#117411: May 4th 2020 at 8:53:13 AM

Considering that Absorbing Man is already dead, I guess this version of Titania will be single, or they will use another villain with super strength like Suspiciously Similar Substitute.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117412: May 4th 2020 at 8:55:06 AM

Or they'll retcon / ignore it.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#117413: May 4th 2020 at 8:56:11 AM

Absorbing Man was in AOS, right?

AOS doesn’t count.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#117414: May 4th 2020 at 9:02:05 AM

I'd like to see the Wrecking Crew show up, and I could definitely see one of them (probably Wrecker or Thunderball) substituting for Absorbing Man.

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#117415: May 4th 2020 at 9:18:27 AM

Absorbing Man appearing would put the nail in the coffin for any relevance of AoS to the MCU. I actually thought Captain Marvel would do that, but it has been surprisingly gentle with AoS canon (or at least not much less than with the Avengers movies canon).

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#117416: May 4th 2020 at 9:20:50 AM

[up][up][up]

It counts to me.

Edited by HandsomeRob on May 4th 2020 at 10:24:09 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117417: May 4th 2020 at 9:33:12 AM

Well... AOS used Absorbing Man in the first place because they couldn't make Hulk content at the time and the Thor movies had no interest in being terrestrial. Same way AOS used a few Iron Man villains that either weren't claimed by the movies or (afterwards) were in limbo because his series was over.

Now that we're getting Hulk content and there's a new human Thor on the way, the mythoses the villain is attached to are actually open - it'd be a shame if he couldn't appear because a tie-in series already killed him off.

For the same reason, I'm expecting the She Hulk series to ignore the bit from the Black Widow tie-in about The Leader being dead.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2020 at 9:39:11 AM

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#117418: May 4th 2020 at 9:40:28 AM

[up] What tie-in? If you're talking about Fury's Big Week comic, Natasha just shot him in the leg and had SHIELD take him into custody. He's not dead and I couldn't find any info that he was dead.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#117419: May 4th 2020 at 9:41:19 AM

Maybe they can have Agents of Shield's upcoming Time Travel plot alter things so Creel doesn't die somehow?

That might be expecting too much (as already said, they tend to just ignore the series utterly, despite continually renewing it) but if they are going to bring Creel back for something else, then they can at least set it up so that the series many people have watched and enjoyed for years isn't tossed under the bus.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117420: May 4th 2020 at 9:43:28 AM

Maybe they can have Agents of Shield's upcoming Time Travel plot alter things so Creel doesn't die somehow?

It's possible, but I don't know if it's likely. The different studios that make the different tv series don't seem to coordinate too often. If She-Hulk is planning to use Titania and Absorbing Man, the AOS team might not know about it until it happens, which means in an upcoming storyline they would just have to guess about what to undo or not.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2020 at 9:47:17 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#117421: May 4th 2020 at 9:45:20 AM

Everything seems to indicate Marvel Television is being phased out as an entity, between most of their adult animation for Hulu being cancelled, Ghost Rider being cancelled, and everyone pretending AOS, Cloak and Dagger, and Runaways never happened.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117422: May 4th 2020 at 9:47:35 AM

They don't really need to go all out for it anyway.

A couple years ago, the Arrovwerse did a thing where a bunch of villains from all the universe's other shows teamed up in Legends of Tomorrow. At the end of this plot, the Legends straight up killed off The Flash's archenemy - literally erased him from all of time forever. But... y'know... if a guy like this was going to be written out for good, it would be in his own series, so he was back the very next season of The Flash with pretty much no explanation.

Heck, I distinctly remember AOS itself having the heroes wipe out all of HYDRA twice, because after the first time they did it HYDRA showed up in Ant-Man or something, requiring them to explain that they hadn't finished the job before and now they were really doing it.

If She Hulk wants to use the character and also wants to acknowledge AOS killing him off, they'll think of something. "I regenerated from a single transmuted cell," or "that was a duplicate I made," or "a tiny bit of me managed to escape" or somesuch comic booky stuff.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2020 at 9:53:36 AM

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#117424: May 4th 2020 at 10:31:53 AM

Absorbing Man is Dr Doom? Well that's a direction I didn't expect them to take.

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#117425: May 4th 2020 at 10:37:22 AM

no absorbing man was a skrull in deep cover

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