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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Yay, more strawmanning.
Still, in the interest of moving on from big productions made of storming away from people we happen to disagree with, here's some fun info about Infinity War and Avengers.
I didn't know they were considering introducing Nova in Infinity War.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 28th 2020 at 12:34:29 PM
Hah, sounds different from what they said earlier about "Steve just didn't want to hurt Thor's feelings". This explanation makes way more sense to me.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 28th 2020 at 12:41:17 PM
That's a good reason. Thor is many things, but a guy whose conscience is ridden by titanic and potentially harmful secrets is not one of them. I don't think Thor's ever kept a secret once in the entire time we've known him - he's about as blunt as a... sigh... hammer.
Though what does that say about Odin, Mr. "our People, and Myself in particular, have a long a brutal history and a mountain of secrets that in one way or another are the causes of nearly all the problems we have now, and which may come back to harm you in horrible ways, but which I won't tell you about because long ranged plans or fear of failure or whatever" himself?
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 28th 2020 at 12:47:05 PM
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That's not the only purpose of it or the only way it can be done but that train's already left the station.
New subject: how did Loki trundle off Odin to a retirement home? Like, how did he capture him? How did he move him? How did he keep him there?
Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 28th 2020 at 12:51:31 PM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.One of the running themes of Odin's character is that he wants Thor to be better than him. "Don't keep secrets like I did" wasn't stated outright in any of the films, but I can see it being part of what he wanted out of Thor.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Although the spell is "whosoever holds this hammer", not "whosoever except me", so I'm imagining Odin is still liable to the spell's rules unless he casts off the spell.
Edited by Gaon on Apr 28th 2020 at 1:46:53 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."In the comics for the longest time he was either excepted or worthy because he was able to handle Mjolnir as he liked
After Original Sin he was not and it made him exceptionally furious
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWell it included things like Thor becoming a depressed drunk & turned Volstagg into an anti-hero substitute as the "War Thor" after watching some children get brutally killed.
Also I'm not how much of an ass Odin was before but they did play up more of him being a total douchebag & I think his father was turned into a flat straw misogynist.
Edited by slimcoder on Apr 28th 2020 at 4:04:30 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."That depends how magic works in this universe. Sometimes magic is an extension of its wilder and sourced from its power, and other times the spell operates independently from the wielder once cast.
For my part I think if the spell was really dependent on Odin, it'd have ceased to function after his death in Thor Ragnarok, but it seems to work alright in both Ragnarok (very briefly) and Endgame.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

Well, I'm out, because this is clearly people adapting whatever version of "fridging" they want in order to justify not liking that scene, so there's little point in having the argument.
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