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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#117151: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:30:43 AM

Have her get striped to her bra in the public while invisible oh wait. >.>

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117152: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:32:42 AM

[up] I seriously doubt we'll be getting any of that in FF movies given Disney's more family-friendly image and the complaints about Black Widow being too sexualized in Iron Man 2.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#117153: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:35:16 AM

[up][up]

It wasn't cool when Fox did that in 2005, it won't be cool EVER.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#117154: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:56:45 AM

> [up] I seriously doubt we'll be getting any of that in FF movies given Disney's more family-friendly image and the complaints about Black Widow being too sexualized in Iron Man 2.

she'll be naked but only Richard Reeds can see her

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#117155: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:01:14 PM

You mean Doom :v

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#117156: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:18:45 PM

Would it be really out of the line in a Marvel movie?

I mean, I find the idea unnecessary, yes, but not out of the realm of what Marvel has done, even post-Disney. Most notably, how horny Starlord is. They did a joke in the first Got G that literally Two and a Half-Men had done before (comparing their bedrooms to a Jackson Pollock under uv light).

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Lost in Space
#117157: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:22:07 PM

That's GotG, which seems to have gotten a bit of license to be raunchy because it's an off-beat anti-hero comedy. Black Widow is a much more "serious" character.

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#117158: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:30:42 PM

wild mass guessDoom will be naked all the time, except for his mask. And Reed. And Johnny. And Ben, in rock form.wild mass guess

True equality.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117159: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:31:23 PM

Also, one of the Guardians trailers had a shot of a naked Gamora that didn't make it into the movie.

@1:53

If there is skin getting exposed in a Marvel movie it will more likely be a guy so probably expect to see a lot of shirtless scenes with Ben, Johnny and possibly even Reed.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#117160: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:39:23 PM

in the name of decency Rocket will now wear pants

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117161: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:41:18 PM

Really, the big problem with Sue the first FF movie wasn't just the underwear scene - though... yeah, not great - but the fact that she was written with sexiness in mind pretty much first and foremost, with her actress literally being directed to do pretty much everything the character ever did (including die) as sexily as possible.

The whole thing is just obnoxious, and of the best examples of how badly the Most Writers Are Male effect can undermine attempts to adapt and bring female characters into things like action movies.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 25th 2020 at 12:46:10 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#117162: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:43:16 PM

Why not make her an astronaut?

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#117163: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:50:24 PM

[up] That would kind of be redundant given all of them are going to space anyway.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#117164: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:54:27 PM

[up]What's wrong with redundancy? Like, what makes it so unappealing? Do we only need one astronaut on that ship?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#117165: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:03:26 PM

I mean, on most current spaceships the entire crew is made up of astronauts. I would assume she'd be an astronaut who just specializes in something different than the other astronaut.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#117166: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:13:15 PM

The only thing that the 2000s FF movies got right in my opinion, is The Thing. Though they are still better than Fant4stic. Not saying much, but still.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 25th 2020 at 3:17:59 AM

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#117167: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:20:33 PM

By definition, once you've been to outer space, you're an astronaut. Though I suppose a professional astronaut would be handy.

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The Head of the Hydra
#117168: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:25:19 PM

I recall the FF team was various occupations apart of a crew with Reed & Sue as the main scientists.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#117169: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:26:16 PM

A dating couple of scientists with a brother as pilot and buddy as military liaison. That sets up everyone for the most part.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#117170: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:39:02 PM

To be fair, Sue wasn't much better in the original Fantastic Four comics. Being a Damsel in Distress was pretty much her primary role. It wasn't until later that she Took a Level in Badass.

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Funny but not helpful
#117171: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:45:49 PM

She was also the Lincoln's Mother of the group

You need a Lincoln's Mother.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#117172: Apr 25th 2020 at 1:47:29 PM

I agree that The Thing was great in the Fox FF movies. It helps that his actor was a dedicated fan of the character. I'd not mind see him again in the role, although I agree there is little chance of that (and the fact that he's 20 years older won't help).

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#117173: Apr 28th 2020 at 9:48:20 AM

I like Jessica Alba, but it's obvious that she was only hired to abuse Sue Storm's invisibility powers to have fanservice scenes.

Although Scarlett Johansson was also for the fanservice, her character achieved a true development that goes beyond her physical beauty.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117174: Apr 28th 2020 at 10:36:36 AM

Granted, Widow's rise out of fanservice was very much a Depending on the Author thing itself. She was just eye candy in Iron Man 2, and only really a step or two above that in the first two Avengers movies.

The Russos were consistently only ones who managed to give her a strong character thus far, and then they fridged her.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 28th 2020 at 10:37:24 AM

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#117175: Apr 28th 2020 at 10:42:38 AM

A Heroic Sacrifice is not the same as fridging.


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