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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117101: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:16:16 PM

They've touched on it in Far From Home.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#117102: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:34:48 PM

I could imagine there is a potential future where they just up and run from Thanos as long as they can, and 40 years later he still managed to catch the last stone. Everything about his actual plan was allowed massive amounts of suffering now but setting the stage for a recovery, one that needed Stark to sacrifice himself then and not on Titan.

Edited by KJMackley on Apr 18th 2020 at 7:37:59 AM

Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#117103: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:47:51 PM

I feel like current events give us a little idea of what effect the Snap would have. And once things open up, that's the un-Snap.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117104: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:16:50 PM

Just like the Snap, our present includes the fluff news of "we're seeing whales more, which means humans are the virus not the numerous other societal machines we've put on hold due to disaster that have had the more adverse effect on nature than the mere concept of humans existing. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 18th 2020 at 9:19:21 AM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#117105: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:17:25 PM

Theoretically, someone with enough power and the ability to time travel could get a set of infinity stones the same way the Avengers did. I doubt they will bring them back because it would feel repetitive, but it does sound very Kang the Conqueror.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#117106: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:19:16 PM

Kang does sound like a good candidate for the next overarching villain.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117107: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:19:30 PM

It's kind of funny that the series most poised to touch on how the Snap effected the people who are left are the more comedic movies (at least, for characters whom haven't had that touched on in Endgame itself).

Ant-Man and the Wasp is probably going to have "everything was shit for five years and I had to grow up in it" be a big thing with Cassie.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#117108: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:54:41 PM

Man, Scott missed out watching his daughter grow up. I really hope they explore that angle in the third Ant-Man movie, that there's just this disconnect between Scott and Cassie because of how much time has passed. Like, they obviously still love each other, but show that Scott's struggling adjusting to the fact that she's suddenly a teenager with needs and concerns that very different from that of a child.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117109: Apr 18th 2020 at 10:18:39 PM

That'd be a right punch in the gut after we've seen how great their relationship was in Wasp and Ant-Man when Cassie was a kid.

He missed out on a huge part of her life again and it wasn't even for fucking up this time.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#117110: Apr 18th 2020 at 10:21:32 PM

It would be Hank's fault in this case for putting him on the trip in the first place.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117111: Apr 18th 2020 at 10:24:09 PM

Also, I wonder how Ghost ended up.

It probably didn't happen, but way back in the transition between Infinity War and Endgame I thought "everyone else got snapped, and Cassie was raised by Ghost" would've been an interesting hook.

Granted, what I really wanted was for Cassie to stay as is and grow to become a heroine just from growing up inheriting her father's morality and the desire to be a hero like him, no emotional trauma necessary (it would've made her make her an interesting counterpoint), but that ain't happenin' either.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 18th 2020 at 10:27:47 AM

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#117112: Apr 18th 2020 at 10:29:30 PM

[up][up]I mean tony is dead, we need someone else to blame for everything happeing.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#117113: Apr 18th 2020 at 10:35:04 PM

In the comics, Cassie became a superhero after Scott was killed due to Avengers Disassembled, so if she becomes Stature in the MCU it'll likely use his disappearance during the Snap as a similar motivating spark to her arc in the comics.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
ChumlyX1995 Since: Jan, 2020
#117115: Apr 19th 2020 at 4:22:32 AM

More than likely, either Cassie’s mom or her step-dad wasn’t snapped. And the survivor raised Cassie.

But I doubt both of them were snapped off or both of them survived.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#117116: Apr 19th 2020 at 7:40:38 AM

I wouldn't blame Hank since he didn't know they would get snapped and be unable to retrieve Scott. It's Thanos' fault.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117117: Apr 19th 2020 at 8:44:16 AM

Yeah it’s not like when Hank forced Scott to violate his house arrest and almost screwed up his life

This was supposed to be a low stakes mission of mercy.

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#117118: Apr 19th 2020 at 8:53:07 AM

Idle thought: For a social distancing film, Marvel could go the route of Unfriended. It was a pretty cool horror movie I saw a while back, told entirely through one character's laptop display. A clever spin on the Found Footage concept. A group of friends are having a Skype conversation when the call is suddenly joined by the vengeful spirit of a peer who blames them for her death, and horror ensues.

I'd be down for a wacky adventure comedy romp taking place entirely through the Avengers' official team videochat line. Maybe brand it as some sort of Starkphone tech as a nod to Tony's business direction in the comics. Rhodey's still out there Avenging, so we could throw in some CGI action, streaming what his suit is seeing.

Maybe they could fight a resurgent Ultron, allowing him to break into the chat in the second act. Or shenanigans a way to use sound-form Klau for it?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 19th 2020 at 9:55:39 AM

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#117119: Apr 19th 2020 at 9:45:27 AM

People have been begging for a "wacky adventures of the Avengers living together" thing since the beginning. This would be sort of the same thing, Slice of Life with just enough drama to get butts in seats.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#117120: Apr 19th 2020 at 12:43:28 PM

I’ve been rereading 52 and it occurs to me that the Snap needs something like that

52 came after multiple apocalyptic catastrophes that killed millions and made the rest fear because worlds lived and worlds died right in the sky and nothing was the same ever again

Several beloved heroes were off the board and some second stringers had to hold things together

And something 52 did really well is make the DC Earth feel like a single Earth

Marvel needs a “5 Years” or something comic or series focusing on the aftermath of the snap and how the world adjusted

Comic would mean that the movie characters could be in it without breaking the budget. Show means people might actually watch it

But Iron Man and Thor going off to the middle of nowhere and quitting superheroics. Captain America and Natasha trying to hold things together with the others. If it’s a comic you can use the Defenders suddenly coming into prominence. Cassie growing up and maybe taking her first steps into being Stature. Wakanda suddenly on the world stage even more but without their royal family.

I’d be down for it

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#117121: Apr 20th 2020 at 9:43:39 AM

Okay, so maybe the isolation and the lull is getting me impatient, but in light of San Diego Comic Con getting canned due to the pandemic, I had a thought:

What if Marvel Studios goes all Nintendo Direct and host a virtual event to announce stuff? Like, has all Hollywood stuff been put on hold so much so that there's nothing super new to announce?

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#117122: Apr 20th 2020 at 9:55:17 AM

Well, pretty much every production's been put on hold, so I'm not sure what they could do. Maybe a full trailer for one of the Disney+ shows and the final season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but I'm not really sure there would be much to report on the movie front.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#117125: Apr 24th 2020 at 1:20:51 AM

Save Hydra???

(I think I see what they mean by that but it's still a Wham Line)

Edited by C105 on Apr 24th 2020 at 10:21:05 AM

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