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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117076: Apr 17th 2020 at 10:27:12 AM

I just had a fun daydream that the next Marvel movie would be filmed entirely while social distancing.

It'd be hilarious.

More seriously, I wonder if this current era is going to result in an upswing of popularity in found footage film.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 17th 2020 at 10:31:25 AM

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#117077: Apr 17th 2020 at 10:33:46 AM

I hope not, I hate that kind of film.

Unless it's used for a joke, like at the beginning of Spiderman: Homecoming.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117079: Apr 17th 2020 at 10:35:02 AM

I feel so bad for convention organizers. For a lot of them, these things are all they have.

There's already worries that losing even a year could result in some conventions falling apart entirely (it came up as possible with EVO).

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#117080: Apr 17th 2020 at 4:46:41 PM

2020 is cancelled

Just Makima.
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#117081: Apr 17th 2020 at 5:03:55 PM

In all fairness, this year would've been a disaster anyhow since many of the potential vendors would've pulled out given the impossible logistics of trying to keep everyone safe from a virus that spreads asymptomatically not to mention having nothing to show due to the production/economic shutdown. It was doomed either way.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 17th 2020 at 8:04:47 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#117082: Apr 17th 2020 at 5:05:49 PM

Good thing they got most of the announcements out of the way last year.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#117083: Apr 18th 2020 at 8:29:43 AM

Alright. I've given Carol shit. I've given Fury shit.

Now. It's time to give Strange shit.

Strange Oh yeah. You're much more of a Thanos.

Thanos I take it The Maw is dead. This day extracts a heavy toll. Still, he accomplished his mission.

Strange You may regret that. He brought you face to face with the master of the mystic arts. (stands) Thanos, I've come to bargain.

ideaideaidea

Or

Thanos ...where is the Time Stone?

Stark (sitting where Strange should be) On your left.

Thanos (looks left and is run over by Strange driving irresponsibly on Titan)

Stark Yeah we figured Strange was a master of stupid decisions so he'd probably figure out a way to make sure you couldn't snap your fingers, Tinky-Winky.

Edited by Soble on Apr 18th 2020 at 9:08:46 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#117084: Apr 18th 2020 at 8:42:55 AM

Dr. Strange: I went forward in time... to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.

Peter Quill: How many did you see?

Dr. Strange: Fourteen million six hundred and five.

Tony Stark: How many did we win?

Dr. Strange: ...One.

That was definitely included so they could handwave things like that away as timelines that went badly, somehow.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117085: Apr 18th 2020 at 8:44:48 AM

In fairness to Dr Strange this was the only plan that killed Tony Stark

Big risk, big reward

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117087: Apr 18th 2020 at 8:59:53 AM

I’m sure he’ll kill Quill eventually

Maybe trick him into a collapsing universe

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#117088: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:15:07 AM

Who says he needs to? Quill seems like the kind of guy to get himself killed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#117089: Apr 18th 2020 at 9:53:02 AM

[up]

Fair enough. But then again, it's a toss up to whether he'll die helping the universe or....well, what happened in Infinity War.

Sure, he's 2-1 for helping versus harming the universe, but when he harms it...again, we get Infnity War.

Strange should really be looking to just Portal Cut him as soon as possible.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#117090: Apr 18th 2020 at 1:49:30 PM

So, Strange is trying to get rid of all the competition for "snarky asshole hero"? Has he taken Thor into account now that Thor's firmly in that category?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#117091: Apr 18th 2020 at 1:51:52 PM

You're all misunderstanding. Strange has no reason to kill Quill. He chose the timeline where Stark died because Stark was rude to him back at the Sanctum.

His next target will be Spider-Man for making fun of his last name and calling it fake.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Apr 18th 2020 at 4:52:11 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#117092: Apr 18th 2020 at 1:55:50 PM

Oh no! Not Peter!

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#117093: Apr 18th 2020 at 2:04:36 PM

wild mass guessStrange was behind the Sony debacle last yearwild mass guess

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#117094: Apr 18th 2020 at 2:05:32 PM

> His next target will be Spider-Man for making fun of his last name and calling it fake.

wild mass guessOne Day More will swap roles so Strange destroys Peter's marriage

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
ChumlyX1995 Since: Jan, 2020
#117095: Apr 18th 2020 at 3:01:14 PM

This was the one outcome where that rat would walk on Ant-man’s van controllers that certain way.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#117096: Apr 18th 2020 at 5:51:14 PM

I do imagine that narrowed it down a lot.

After Strange realized he was dying every time, he probably started looking for futures where he (and everyone else) got resurrected. Then he found one where Thanos and everyone associated with him got killed off for good—which required Tony to sacrifice himself.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#117097: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:01:59 PM

I always figured Strange was going for the ultimate win. Not just Thanos dead, not just this one threat finished, but no threat of this happening somewhere down the line.

Maybe there were a few timelines where could have defeated Thanos beforehand, just a few, but then someone else just did the same thing decades later after they were all dead. Maybe one of his army escaped and came back for revenge later. Maybe Thanos survives, defeated, and waits until everyone is dead to come back. And all those things narrow down the options. Maybe they win, but Earth's heroes remain in disarray and that leads to a worse different disaster later.

In this timeline, Thanos is gone, his army is all gone, the Avengers have never been more unified or had wider authoirty, and most importantly the stones are gone: not scattered or split, but straight up don't exist any more, and so no one can use them ever again.

And all it cost was one Tony Stark.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#117098: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:05:30 PM

Yeah. All jokes against Tony aside, that is a huge win.

Sure, it may not seem that way to Pepper and Morgan, but I think even Tony would consider it a huge gain.

Of course, when we say all it cost us was Tony Stark, that means ignoring all the dudes who probably died in the Avenges compound battle, which is likely a lot of people.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#117099: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:10:06 PM

All it cost was Tony Stark and a shit-load of trauma for literally everyone in the universe.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#117100: Apr 18th 2020 at 7:15:27 PM

Good thing they wouldn't explore what happened in the five years time skip. Would have made it harder to ignore all the implications of it.

Wake me up at your own risk.

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