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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#116651: Mar 30th 2020 at 4:18:51 PM

Spider man clone wars spider man clone wars!

..what?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#116653: Mar 30th 2020 at 5:16:11 PM

Obviously it would be titled Spider-Man Clone Home.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#116654: Mar 30th 2020 at 5:17:37 PM

Doctor Strange 2 is about going to different universes & Chavez is from a different universe so it’s very fitting.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#116655: Mar 30th 2020 at 5:30:28 PM

I'd so desperately love it if Blue Marvel was referenced by Namor and/or Black Panther. Not just for Ultimates, but for the hope that it could spark some more interest in his character, and his story of the bitter truths about America. I'd love to see him as The Idealist Knight in Sour Armor.

Also, Blue Marvel and Anti-Man's costumes in Ultimates are really cool.

...and his backstory could easily be tied into what the SSI/PEGASUS/US gov't was doing with the Space Stone before it showed up in Captain Marvel. And it's even blue!

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 30th 2020 at 7:38:23 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#116656: Mar 30th 2020 at 5:40:48 PM

I wonder how they'll accomplish MAC without Billy Kaplan, unless they use her introduction as a way to foreshadow Billy. Didn't they say Wanda Vision and Doctor Strange 2 would be connected?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116657: Mar 30th 2020 at 6:05:22 PM

I've heard rumors that Eternals will feature Atlantis (or, rather, the sinking of Atlantis) in the opening montage, which makes sense, considering that the Celestials were the reason that Deviant Lemuria sank in the comics. Just swap that for Atlantis and you're good.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116658: Mar 30th 2020 at 6:12:55 PM

Atlantis? That sounds like a Namor setup.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#116659: Mar 31st 2020 at 3:13:11 AM

Maybe Raimi will also give Jameson a cameo? ;)

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#116660: Mar 31st 2020 at 6:46:31 AM

So...Dana Schwartz, who's set to write for She-Hulk, sort of made a comparison between The Rise of Skywalker and the current pandemic...

COVID-19 is going to be like Rise of Skywalker. It's a nightmare. It's going to be a struggle. But then we're going to get to come out the other side and pretend it never happened.

This is not okay, right?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#116661: Mar 31st 2020 at 6:49:43 AM

I want her to st in the corner and think about what she's just said

Edited by Ultimatum on Mar 31st 2020 at 1:56:37 PM

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#116662: Mar 31st 2020 at 6:53:17 AM

[up]Her. And as a general rule, whatever issues one may have with a film, book, show, etc, comparing them to the deaths of actual people is tasteless.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#116663: Mar 31st 2020 at 6:57:30 AM

Pretending x ever happened is how you wind up learning NOTHING

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116664: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:18:57 AM

I mean, 1) it's a funny joke and 2) she's making fun the fact that people will forget about it immediately after.

And as a general rule, whatever issues one may have with a film, book, show, etc, comparing them to the deaths of actual people is tasteless.
Well, clearly you've never heard of black comedy. (Also, she didn't compare them to anyone's deaths, she compared it to a virus.) If you think people aren't making jokes about COVID-19, you have another thing coming.

The tweet is perfectly fine.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 31st 2020 at 7:22:39 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116665: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:28:20 AM

[up]It just feels like people overreacting to how bad a film is. Like the people who yelled about the Prequels being worse than a disease. Guys, it’s just a movie.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116666: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:30:55 AM

She knows this. Look at the replies to the tweet — she wants to read the comic adaptation.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#116667: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:31:13 AM

> Well, clearly you've never heard of black comedy

More like Gallows Humor for some people

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#116668: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:42:00 AM

I mean, I liked TROS...but I guess I'd be lying if I said I didn't want at least a comic book miniseries detailing how Duel of the Fates would've turned out.

After all, it's not like there hasn't been precedence for stories that could've been. Didn't Dark Horse Comics publish a miniseries based on the first draft of what would end up becoming the first Star Wars movie?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116669: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:47:58 AM

[up][up]Comedy is tragedy + time.

The time is the missing element here. I’m not offended or anything but it is still a bit...Eh.

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#116670: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:50:51 AM

...yeah that’s pretty questionable. Not the first time she’s tweeted problematic stuff, tbh. tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#116671: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:51:41 AM

I’ve been nothing but bombarded by jokes about toilet paper and whatever this while time

People obviously think it’s okay to joke about

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 31st 2020 at 10:51:58 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116672: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:53:02 AM

[up]That’s a bit different. The toilet paper, the mass exercise equipment shortage, the jokes about seeing everyone after the time skip...it’s not about the disease itself.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#116673: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:55:37 AM

I didn't think it was particularly funny about either COVID-19 or Star Wars.

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#116674: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:56:05 AM

[up][up] I feel that’s just semantics

I also feel like it’s importing drama to bring up the tweet because it’s not directly relevant to MCU discussion and seems to be just “should we be mad at this, discuss”

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 31st 2020 at 11:01:28 AM

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#116675: Mar 31st 2020 at 8:30:53 AM

A. Joke’s not particularly funny.

B. It’s more ragging on that movie, so it’s just more of the same.

C. Is it relevant to this thread? It’s not actually about the MCU. It’s about a MCU writer’s tweet but debatable whether that’s enough.

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