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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#116626: Mar 27th 2020 at 7:51:22 PM

I'm sure it's been addressed already, but since Black Widow has been postponed, I wonder if that "attend the premier and meet Scarlett Johansson" contest thing is still on the table.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#116627: Mar 27th 2020 at 9:48:47 PM

How do you think World War Hulk would have gone down in the MCU?

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#116628: Mar 27th 2020 at 9:59:48 PM

This would be an alternate reality where Thor wasn't around to rescue him in Ragnarok. The Hulk's content to live out the rest of his days as a gladiator when all of a sudden, a meteor crashes into the planet, killing everyone but him. While he's relatively unharmed physically, the radiation causes an early fuse of his and Banner's personalities. Unlike Professor Hulk, this one's much more Hulklike and malevolent. He hitches a ride on a passing spaceship to Earth and wants to go after humanity in general. From there, World War Hulk plays out.

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#116629: Mar 27th 2020 at 10:14:00 PM

If it was just a random meteor why would he want revenge on humans?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#116630: Mar 27th 2020 at 10:30:15 PM

It could use some tweaking, admittedly.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116631: Mar 27th 2020 at 11:16:46 PM

It would take a lot of tweaking for World War Hulk to begin to make sense

Really, the only way they could have set something like that up was if they had never had to deal with the distribution rights issue and thus could have made solo Hulk movies from the beginning. As long as he was a supporting / team character, they weren't going to be able to set up a "Hulk is ostracized from humanity" story adequately.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#116632: Mar 28th 2020 at 2:48:02 AM

Yeah WWH was a stupid storyline. Especially after the great Planet Hulk.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116633: Mar 28th 2020 at 4:18:53 AM

Though I admit, we've never had both the Teen Titans and Young Justice be made up of teens (the former was mostly young adults before the two merged way back in the mid 2000's).

Actually the current Teen Titans and Young Justice books both have teenage characters right now.

Also, Hope Pym already had a comic counterpart before Nadia was created.

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#116634: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:06:37 AM

[up] Granted, but that version of Hope was... a villain.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116635: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:09:55 AM

Which makes it all the weirder to introduce Nadia as a member of the Bug Family. It’s nowhere near as crowded in the comics as it is in the film.

This is a good thing. They made Civil War work. You have all this space now to do new, fun things with the characters.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 28th 2020 at 10:13:31 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116636: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:12:58 AM

How are the comics less crowded than the films?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116637: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:16:03 AM

[up]If you look at the Bug family, Cassie was doing her thing for years before Nadia came along (and she ended up in a dust up with Eric O’Grady over him being an Ant Man), Hope was a villain, and Janet and Hank had mostly moved from those roles at that point. Here, Cassie hasn’t even gotten started, we just got Janet back, and I hope they don’t sideline well...Hope.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116638: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:24:23 AM

I think you misread my comment because that shows that the comics are indeed more crowded than the movies.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116639: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:42:38 AM

[up]I didn’t mean crowded as in total characters, more so crowded as in active characters at once. The comics are more crowded in totals, but they were also a lot more spread out over time. Does that make sense?

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 28th 2020 at 10:45:55 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116640: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:48:50 AM

Oh, I see what you mean now. Still I'm not sure that is accurate. The comics have Scott, Nadia, Cassie and Jan active while it's only Scott and Hope active in the movies and I seriously doubt we'll have Hank and Jan suiting up again.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#116641: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:49:07 AM

So crowded in the sense that Green Lantern has 5 human Lanterns all on active duty at once?

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 28th 2020 at 7:49:29 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116642: Mar 28th 2020 at 7:53:49 AM

Cassie is clearly going to be the focus of the next Ant Man film, so I’m wondering if you throw Nadia into that, make her In Name Only and more focused on the Black Widow legacy, or just goes full Adaptational Villainy and make her the Red Queen. I would argue 1 does make for a crowded film.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 28th 2020 at 10:54:04 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116643: Mar 28th 2020 at 8:31:34 AM

There are ways to adapt any story and any character. Also, World War Hulk was a good idea, but it didn't go far enough — it was more "Hulk fights New York" rather than the actual world, but still.

Nadia van Dyne could be Jan and Hank's first child who was kidnapped by Hydra in an attempt to get the formula for Pym Particles and thought dead — but she was actually frozen like Bucky and brought out to be turned into an assassin, but she rebelled against it and instead learned science and eventually broke out to find her parents. This would maintain most of the original character, while changing some circumstances to make it work.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116644: Mar 30th 2020 at 8:14:44 AM

I hope they confirm Young Avengers.

Potential members and in which series or movie can they be introduced.

  • Stature: Ant-man 3
  • Wiccan and Speed: Wanda & Vision
  • Kate Bishop: Hawkeye
  • Enchantress Sylvie: Loki (As a treasonous member.)
  • Kid Loki: Thor: Love and Thunder.
  • Hulkling: Introduced in the same series or movie.

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#116645: Mar 30th 2020 at 11:20:44 AM

Rumor has it that Mac Chavez will show up in Doctor Strange 2. Might be a little packed for another origin story considering we know Monica Rambeau is/turns into Spectrum in that film, but if there’s any place in Phase 4 a multiversal hero could appear it’s in a film about the Madness of the Multiverse.

[down]Corrected.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 30th 2020 at 11:52:25 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116646: Mar 30th 2020 at 11:51:14 AM

Monica Rambeau isn't showing up in Doctor Strange 2, she's in Wanda Vision.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116647: Mar 30th 2020 at 12:02:35 PM

[up]IIRC the rumor was Wanda Vision would explore Wanda’s reality altering powers which would let her tag along in Multiverse of Madness.

Of course with everything going on, I don’t know if they’ll start directing that in time. They never even formally confirmed if Sam Raimi was taking over directorial duties.

Speaking of Doctor Strange Scott Derrickson put together this PSA poster.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 30th 2020 at 3:05:07 PM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#116649: Mar 30th 2020 at 2:08:16 PM

Sam Raimi confirmed? Oh boy yeah. It's been too long since I've seen a superhero movie in his style. I've mostly been apathetic to the MCU post-Endgame, but Doctor Strange 2 will be a must watch.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#116650: Mar 30th 2020 at 4:15:41 PM

Seamus McGarvey, the cinematographer for The Avengers, will be the cinematographer for the (still-untitled) third MCU Spider-Man movie.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 30th 2020 at 7:16:27 AM


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