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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#116401: Mar 17th 2020 at 9:27:57 AM

[up][up]Then again, Natasha is not a regular Black Widow anymore, after having sparred with gods, aliens, robots and various other superpowered individuals. I doubt the other Black Widows have such a resume.

Edited by C105 on Mar 17th 2020 at 5:28:24 PM

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#116402: Mar 17th 2020 at 9:28:22 AM

[up][up] I'd love it if that means the Kingpin gets to be the villain of the next Spider-Man movie.

But that'd mean I'd have to catch up on the Netflix shows to get the full context (I haven't watched anything past season one of Luke Cage). And I've heard very mixed things about their later series.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Mar 17th 2020 at 12:31:54 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#116403: Mar 17th 2020 at 9:31:16 AM

If Ryan Reynolds can keep portraying Deadpool then I can believe that the Netflix characters might get full reprisals........... well except for Iron Fist.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 17th 2020 at 9:34:13 AM

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#116404: Mar 17th 2020 at 9:37:07 AM

Luke Cage season 2 is great. Both seasons of The Punisher are good. Haven't seen the others.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116405: Mar 17th 2020 at 9:41:36 AM

[up]*4 Still they are supposed to be trained assassins, it would be disappointed if they were so easy to kill.

Fake Ultimate Mook

Similar to Ren's knights who are as weak as stormtroopers, despite being supposedly users of force.

I am not asking that they be super powerful, but that they are at least not as weak as a Chitauri.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 17th 2020 at 9:44:48 AM

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#116406: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:05:24 AM

Did the movies ever say the knights were?

We made a lot of assumptions that the movies ultimately didn’t cash and that’s on them but it’s on us a little bit too

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#116407: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:07:37 AM

I remember very distinctly that we never saw the Knights of Ren use the Force. They could have been doing the more passive stuff, but there was nothing obvious.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#116408: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:09:27 AM

Shit recasting & reimagine Iron Fist would give them the opportunity to fix the character after what Netflix did to him.

Tone down the grit & embrace the mystical martial arts movie nature of the character as well as making him more likable so Luke can think of him as a brother & we get a Heroes for Hire series.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#116409: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:11:58 AM

Yeah. Finn Jones needs to be kicked out.

He's got too much drama behind him from the role. Someone new is a very good idea. I do want them to keep the status quo Netflix had of Danny giving the power to Coleen while he searches for the origins of the Iron Fist and the other cities though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#116411: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:17:40 AM

Let him keep the power that he earned in the first place, it’s not like only one person ever has the power at a time in the comics anyway.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116413: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:22:21 AM

Speaking of Daredevil.

I would not be very excited, this will probably be with another actor and ignoring the events of the series.

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Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 17th 2020 at 10:23:11 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#116414: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:25:39 AM

If/when we get a solo Spider-Gwen movie, I'd love to see that version of Matt Murdock.

But I don't think Charlie Cox would do a good job in that particular role, odd as that might sound.

...Maybe if it was just VA.

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#116415: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:35:14 AM

Seeing Gwen portrayed by Emma Stone again would be nice

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#116416: Mar 17th 2020 at 10:38:42 AM

She’s about eight years older than Tom Holland, so their dynamic probably wouldn’t be a romantic or fellow student one.

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#116417: Mar 17th 2020 at 12:45:11 PM

I liked Finn Jones as Danny Rand. Wasn't very good in his first season or Defenders, but he really grew into the role with his Luke Cage cameo and his own second season.

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#116418: Mar 17th 2020 at 1:17:55 PM

Before anyone asks if BW is going straight to Disney+ or VOD, no way. Lots of money is at stake here. Even if the cinemas reopen by May the environment would be so unfavorable that the film would crash and burn instantly.

The only way the release would go digital is if Disney is willing to write it off as a financial failure.

Edited by Mario1995 on Mar 17th 2020 at 4:22:31 AM

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#116419: Mar 17th 2020 at 1:24:45 PM

Charlie Cox!Daredevil in Peter's corner dealing with JJJ's crap?

Yes please!

My brother had a head cannon where first they play nice with JJJ, having DD act as the Parker's Lawyer (whose on a well paid retainer via Ms Potts-Stark) then when that doesn't work they get MEAN and call in Jessica to do some digging.

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#116420: Mar 17th 2020 at 7:28:39 PM

But that'd mean I'd have to catch up on the Netflix shows to get the full context (I haven't watched anything past season one of Luke Cage). And I've heard very mixed things about their later series.

Daredevil seasons 1, the first half of 2, and 3 are all phenomenal. It's only the second half of Daredevil's 2nd season that's not very good.

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#116421: Mar 17th 2020 at 7:29:35 PM

I’m pretty sure if Murdock does come in, his prior adventures will be Broad Strokes.

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#116422: Mar 17th 2020 at 8:22:54 PM

Even then the second half still has some good parts, like every single scene with Wilson Fisk.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#116423: Mar 18th 2020 at 12:35:19 AM

Luke Cage Season 1 had a weak second half as well. And the less said about Iron Fist Season 1, the better.

Other than that, I genuinely liked every Netflix Marvel Season, even Defenders.

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#116424: Mar 18th 2020 at 5:59:02 AM

For some reason, Netflix felt like the Hand were compelling villains. In my opinion that was their ultimate kryptonite. There were odd things here and there that didn't work in some shows, some parts of certain seasons that didn't click, but the primary thing that dragged down sizable portions of the Netflix continuity was that singular decision to give the Hand so much damn screen time.

I would legit take Diamondback over the Hand.

Edited by GNinja on Mar 18th 2020 at 1:01:00 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116425: Mar 18th 2020 at 6:31:05 AM

Iron Fist Season 2 should win an award for "most improved," because it was so much better than Season 1. And I just loved the ending, even though I wish they would continue it.


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