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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116352: Mar 12th 2020 at 11:23:04 AM

Oh no theme park Groot is like comic Groot and is spawning Grootlets!

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116354: Mar 12th 2020 at 10:37:10 PM

The effects of COVID-19 on the entertainment industry might actually be worse than the 2007-2008 Writer's Strike. And that cost Hollywood about $1.5 billion.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116355: Mar 12th 2020 at 10:41:51 PM

Even before getting into Hollywood itself starting to get effected, the ramifications of the Chinese market shutting down are going to do very interesting things to the movie industry this year.

And again, that's before the fact that it's doing nasty things over here as well.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116356: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:45:42 PM

With all the potential female characters in the future, this would be my list of most anticipated to least anticipated.

  1. Songbird: Falcon/Bucky
  2. Jennifer/ She-Hulk
  3. Peggy Carter: What if?
  4. Kate Bishop: Hawkeye
  5. Yelena
  6. The character of Sophia Di Martino.
  7. The character of Rachel Weizs
  8. Sylvie: Loki
  9. The character of Gugu Mbatha-Raw
  10. Ms. Marvel

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 13th 2020 at 8:09:52 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#116357: Mar 13th 2020 at 7:57:42 PM

Use # instead of * to do numbered lists.

Also, no adult Monica?

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#116358: Mar 14th 2020 at 3:23:41 AM

There's also the female characters from the Eternals.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116359: Mar 14th 2020 at 11:13:25 AM

[up]Speaking of the Eternals, for now their characters are indifferent to me.

[up][up]Monica already appeared as a child, so technically she is not a "new" character.

I included Peggy, because she is from another universe.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 14th 2020 at 11:16:29 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116360: Mar 14th 2020 at 11:56:25 AM

Monica's definitely among the character I'm looking forward to seeing in the future - how they handle her is one of the big things I'm invested in for the MCU for the next couple of years.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 14th 2020 at 11:56:38 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116361: Mar 14th 2020 at 1:24:33 PM

Ms. Marvel is #1 for me, followed by She-Hulk. I wanna see how they handle Monica as well.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116364: Mar 14th 2020 at 3:28:13 PM

At this point, I think at least a couple shows will get cancelled.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116365: Mar 14th 2020 at 3:46:14 PM

wild mass guessAll future shows and movies this year will be filmed with a single actor per room, wearing a HAZMAT suit.wild mass guess

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116366: Mar 14th 2020 at 5:42:46 PM

At this point, I think at least a couple shows will get cancelled.
The Disney+ shows aren't getting cancelled, mainly because they are already set up for one season only. (They are more like mini-series in that way.) If they are popular, then they will probably get a second season, but Disney will only know that once they are released.

As for shows that were airing and now have to halt production...maybe? It all depends on if they were getting low ratings on the first place. If you look at the shows cancelled during the Writers Strike, then you'll see that most of them were either already on their last legs (Girlfriends, The 4400) or new shows that just weren't hitting it off (Bionic Woman, a bunch of sitcoms).

It's much more likely that shows will either be postponed (like the Disney+ shows) or have shortened seasons. And, hell, Pushing Daisies got a shortened season due to the Writers Strike and it was still renewed for a second season. Which was also it's last, sure, but not due to the Writers' Strike. (Meanwhile, shows that were postponed, like Battlestar Galactica or Chuck, ended up perfectly fine.)

The only difference in this case? Television can't switch to reality shows in order to make up for lack of content, since reality shows themselves are stopping production. So hopefully, all of this will be done by the time content dries up, but if not, we're in for a lot of reruns. Or networks making deals with streaming services to air shows — like CBS perhaps airing CBS All Access shows on their network.

As for how this will affect the MCU — Agents of SHIELD is already all filmed and done and will air in the summer, so there's no need to worry about that (especially since it's already the show's last season). Helstrom was expected to film between October 2019 and February 2020, so filming for that show might already be done, too; it probably just needs post-production work, which they may be able to continue working on, although I'm not sure. In any case, since filming is probably done, they will definitely air the entire season, although whether or not they will make more seasons of it will entirely depend on, again, how popular it is (not ratings, since it's Hulu).

The dates for the Disney+ shows will probably be pushed back, as will the dates of the movies. I definitely don't think that Marvel are going to cancel any of them.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 14th 2020 at 5:46:48 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116367: Mar 16th 2020 at 6:07:38 AM

Avengers: Endgame: The Russo Brothers Wanted Red Skull to Be More Like Yoda

Johann Schmidt, aka The Red Skull, made an unexpected appearance in Avengers: Infinity War as a wraith figure guarding the Soul Stone. Actor Ross Marquand reprised the role in Avengers: Endgame, and has revealed how he was instructed to play the character originated by Hugo Weaving in Captain America: The First Avenger.

"[The Russo Bros.] came to me and said we want you to take Hugo's Red Skull and infuse him with a bit of Yoda," Marquand told Nerds 4 Life. "He's a wise soul, he's 84 years older, and he's also an apparition. He's kind of a ghost at this point."

"He's no longer the diabolical, ambitious man that we know him as in 1944. He's a complicated anti-hero," Marquand continued. "I thought that was such a fun take on him, because he's just so broken — he's a cursed man, and I love playing that."

SlackerSpice The King of Bob from Stuck in the middle with you Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116369: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:08:36 AM

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#116370: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:20:13 AM

I think the better analogy is that the Red Skull became more of Tantalus-type figure; a monster ironically punished for his misdeeds in a way that will ensure he never hurts anyone again. A figure more to pity than to empathize with like you could with Yoda.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Mar 16th 2020 at 12:21:53 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#116371: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:23:38 AM

Red Skull is evil personified practicality,dude is a nazi for Petes sake! So glad they didn't try to make him a yoder type figure

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#116372: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:30:10 AM

Yeah is weird since red skull is more like palpatine than yoda...like the total oposite.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#116373: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:36:13 AM

Doesn't seem particularly strange to me. In Infinity War its very clear that Red Skull is a broken old hermit vanguarding cosmic powers, which is not too far from Yoda in the OT.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#116374: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:39:26 AM

>>>"He's no longer the diabolical, ambitious man that we know him as in 1944. He's a complicated anti-hero," Marquand continued. "I thought that was such a fun take on him, because he's just so broken — he's a cursed man, and I love playing that."<<<

Red Skull was never and should be never considered to be an "Anti-Hero" He's a Effin NAZI! At times I wonder what the Russo's are smoking and thank the gods that Feige put Jon and James as E Ps on IW and EG

Edited by ShadowWingLG on Mar 16th 2020 at 11:42:51 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#116375: Mar 16th 2020 at 9:44:57 AM

Again, the Russos themselves describe Red Skull as a "ghost". The Red Skull is, for all intents and purposes, dead. What we meet in IW is a tormented shadow of him.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

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