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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#116151: Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:21:34 PM

I believe wherever WandaVision is set within the MCU timeline is a major problem—they can't set it after Avengers: Endgame because Vision was Killed Off for Real by that point and obviously wasn't revived for that film's climatic battle. On the other hand, since it's going to be a sitcom, it could also instead be set in an Alternate Continuity, as has been the case for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in its final two seasons.

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#116152: Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:25:53 PM

People have been assuming reality warping weirdery from what I've seen

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#116153: Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:28:50 PM

I believe it’s been confirmed that Wanda Vision is a prequel to the Doctor Strange sequel & sets up her apperance/role in that film.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:29:00 AM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116154: Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:45:51 PM

I believe wherever WandaVision is set within the MCU timeline is a major problem—they can't set it after Avengers: Endgame
Except that they've confirmed WandaVision does take place after Endgame. Wanda is probably trying to bring the Vision back to life using her powers.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:46:27 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#116155: Mar 3rd 2020 at 9:56:36 PM

Wanda most likely trapped herself in a Lotus-Eater Machine so the timeframe isn't required to be concrete.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116156: Mar 3rd 2020 at 10:42:14 PM

The nature of Wanda's reality warping powers means dead characters showing up isn't a problem. One of the pivotal moments in House of M was Hawkeye (whom she'd previously killed during Avengers Disassembled) showing up to angrily tell Wanda what she'd done to him. And then once reality was restored to normal, Clint was alive again.

Edited by comicwriter on Mar 3rd 2020 at 10:42:34 AM

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#116157: Mar 4th 2020 at 12:23:51 AM

But all we've seen Wanda do so far is telekinesis and some level of telepathy / mind control. Giving her the reality warping powers she has in the comics would require some explanation (especially since her powers come from the mind stone, not the reality stone, although the powers granted from the stones don't seem to have a lot of relation with what the stone is supposed to do).

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#116158: Mar 4th 2020 at 1:14:50 AM

I'm speculating that since we'll most likely learn more about Wanda's past & since she'll receive immense character focus, they may hint that she's a Mutant.

And somehow her increasing mutation is actually colliding with her Infinity Stone born powers & revving them up to new levels.

Of course again its just wild mass guess

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#116159: Mar 4th 2020 at 6:02:11 AM

Like, Vision being obviously dead at this point is one of the hooks for Wandavision. Because look. There he is. How? Intrigue.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Mar 4th 2020 at 9:02:27 AM

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#116160: Mar 4th 2020 at 9:10:05 AM

I've been getting vibes from Wanda Vision that makes me think of the episode of Supernatural when Gabriel trapped Sam and Dean in various tv shows.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116161: Mar 4th 2020 at 9:11:52 AM

Want to see her star in Charlie's Angels or something?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116162: Mar 4th 2020 at 9:17:17 AM

[up]As long as it’s not the awful reboot from last year.

The inspiration seems to be single camera sitcoms. Makes me wonder if we’re going to see a parody of a Very Special Episode.

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#116163: Mar 4th 2020 at 3:26:15 PM

Sounds like the Hawkeye show might be getting back into production; Renner tweeted on his Instagram that he's prepping for it

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 4th 2020 at 3:26:25 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116164: Mar 4th 2020 at 6:22:40 PM

So we have some set pictures of the Loki show — don't click if you don't want spoilers. The guy in the gray rainsuit is Owen Wilson and also I think we see Lady Loki.

It also looks like young actress Cailey Fleming is in the show as "Young Sylvie." In the comics Sylvie Lushton was a human who became the Enchantress (as opposed to the Asgardian Enchantress, Amora) due to Loki.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 4th 2020 at 6:25:49 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116165: Mar 4th 2020 at 6:56:59 PM

I still want them to do that story where Loki teamed up with Spider-Man.

Memetic moments aside, that actually does have a plot I think would work in the show even if they don’t put Spidey in it: Loki, being hundreds of years old, has a ton of descendants from times he dipped off to Earth to mingle with mortals, whose bloodlines he semi-keeps track of. One of those long removed descendants becomes the victim of a mystical villain, forcing Loki to team up with people who would normally be his enemies in order to protect them (it being an honor/territory thing rather than an affection thing).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 4th 2020 at 6:57:17 AM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116166: Mar 4th 2020 at 7:18:21 PM

I find it strange that they want to adapt Enchantress II, without adapting to the original first.

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Crazy theory using the post above: Sylvie/Young enchantress is Loki's daughter.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 4th 2020 at 7:21:20 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#116167: Mar 5th 2020 at 5:17:17 AM

[up] I wonder if they're saving Amora for Thor: Love and Thunder...

EDIT: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is looking to shoot some scenes in Norway.

And if anyone wasn't convinced that Sam Raimi IS doing an MCU movie, The Hollywood Reporter all but confirms it.

In a bit of moviemaking irony, Sam Raimi was at one time attached to direct Bermuda. Raimi recently signed on to helm Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness after Derrickson exited that film earlier this year. Bermuda, centered around the Bermuda Triangle, had a script from Doug Miro and Carlo Bernard when Raimi was attached. Derrickson and his writing partner C. Robert Cargill will rewrite the script.

We're in the best timeline.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 5th 2020 at 8:24:15 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116168: Mar 5th 2020 at 5:31:45 AM

I mean, it makes sense. The original is a very Thor centric character - if there’s a Loki centric alternative, they might as well use it.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116169: Mar 5th 2020 at 8:40:23 AM

It is also possible that Enchantress will be a composite character between the two versions.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116171: Mar 5th 2020 at 3:20:24 PM

I doubt the panic will last much longer, honestly.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116173: Mar 6th 2020 at 9:21:38 AM

Well, more like vague information followed by speculation, but it's still interesting.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#116174: Mar 6th 2020 at 1:02:40 PM

If it's true, I hope Songbird turns good eventually. I much prefer her as a protagonist (huge Thunderbolts fan here).


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