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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116126: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:12:10 PM

But after all that she basically started backpacking around space and hanging with the Silver Surfer

It was neat

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116127: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:31:32 PM

But then she became a Bride of Immortus but that turned out to be a space phantom and then she disappeared until Annihilation and then joined the Guardians of the Galaxy and fast forward to now and apparently the Cotati have secretly infiltrated Earth and a Kree-Skrull Alliance is all set to invade Earth in order to stop the Cotati in an event called Empyre.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116128: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:32:50 PM

She leads a rich full life now that she’s gotten that Madonna nonsense behind her

Although some guardians of the galaxy content acts like she still has yet to do it?

Also it’s ongoing and all so withholding most judgment but I’m not going to love if Cotati actually secretly evil all along. Anything that attempts to retroactively justify the Kree genociding their neighbors out of petty jealousy is a no go

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 1st 2020 at 1:34:25 PM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116129: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:34:58 PM

I mean, apparently the Celestial Messiah is supposed to be "the most important person in the universe," but they haven't actually done anything yet. Although they are supposed to appear in Empyre, so...we'll see.

[up] The preview for Avengers: Empyre actually uses that as backstory before the Avengers arrive on the Blue Area of the Moon to discover that it's now the Green Area of the Moon.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 1st 2020 at 10:39:32 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116130: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:39:20 PM

I’m sad that Uatu died before the landscapers arrived

He would have been jazzed

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116131: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:50:25 PM

On the other hand, Nick Fury should be delighted.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#116132: Mar 2nd 2020 at 12:10:45 AM

Comics are dumbtongue

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#116133: Mar 2nd 2020 at 1:26:54 AM

Talking about Uatu, I wonder if the Watchers will get properly introduced into the MCU.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116134: Mar 2nd 2020 at 1:29:01 AM

Well, they cameoed in Guardians 2, so who knows if we'll see them playing a bigger role eventually.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#116135: Mar 2nd 2020 at 3:57:11 AM

If Galactus ever show up, then Uatu will have a role there.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#116136: Mar 2nd 2020 at 3:59:12 AM

If the Watchers do get a role, I hope Aron is an antagonist. It's rarely touched upon in the comics, but it's actually a really good thing that the Watchers have a code against messing around with other races. Because Watchers are hideously powerful. Like, Celestial level powerful. Aron showed just how bad a Watcher can be if they decided to ignore the code against interference and did their own thing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#116137: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:09:49 AM

That code is part of why I love the occasional Uatu interference to give heroes something of a fighting chance in some absurdly stacked-against-them scenario. The heroes almost always ask "but why can't do you more though" and Uatu always responds with something like "motherfucker I'm already way out of order here, don't make me lose my goddamn job".

It's great. He's like Mr. Incredible working in the office early in the film.

"You know, Uatu, the watchers are just like one big clock..."

Edited by Gaon on Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:12:57 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116138: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:13:41 AM

Can he be expected to throw his boss through several walls?

Wake me up at your own risk.
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#116139: Mar 2nd 2020 at 11:11:28 AM

Meh. Trying to Justify an Alien Non-Interference Clause by making an alien who doesn't follow it evil seems cheap to me.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116140: Mar 2nd 2020 at 11:20:10 AM

I recall the 2018 Exiles had a rogue faction of Watchers who seek to shut down interference from anybody, including people (often accidentally) displaced from other timelines and universes.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 2nd 2020 at 11:20:22 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#116141: Mar 2nd 2020 at 3:59:13 PM

Okay no joke this should have been the actual ending to Guardians. [lol]

Ronan dueling Quill in a dance-off for the fate of the galaxy & then handing over the stone in utter shame.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#116142: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:03:43 PM

Apparently the director for Doctor Strange & the Multiverse stepped down and Sam Raimi is allegedly being approached as a replacement. This has of course fueled rumors of the plot involving the Spider-Man Trilogy universe and a return of Tobey Maguire.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:04:30 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#116143: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:07:37 PM

wild mass guessturns out his movies take place in an alternate timeline and Strange meets him during his travels

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116144: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:39:00 PM

[up][up]This happened several weeks ago.

Edited by comicwriter on Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:39:14 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#116145: Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:19:43 PM

Trying to Justify an Alien Non-Interference Clause by making an alien who doesn't follow it evil seems cheap to me.

The original justification the Watchers' code had was that the last time they tried to uplift a species it ended with the species wiping itself out in a war.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116146: Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:30:39 PM

[up]Which makes perfect sense. “Look, we interfered once under the pretense of doing good. They’re not around anymore. Trust us, it’s for the best.”

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116147: Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:34:02 PM

The Watcher has interfered so often that his non-interference clause being bullshit has even been lampshaded in the stories.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#116148: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:41:16 PM

Frequently-Broken Unbreakable Vow.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Mar 2nd 2020 at 10:41:36 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#116149: Mar 2nd 2020 at 8:37:17 PM

He's actually the first example on that page's Comic Books section!

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#116150: Mar 2nd 2020 at 9:54:51 PM

Original Sin revealed that this is because he never believed in the code. His father was the Watcher who apparently screwed up that species — Uatu however always believed that the Watchers shouldn't let one admittedly cataclysmic failure be an excuse to never help out others again.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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