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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#116076: Feb 28th 2020 at 8:49:39 AM

It's definitely true that CM 2 seems to have the most rumors of new characters. And most seem to be mutants.

We gotta have those mutants! [lol] Especially when Fox did Rogue and Mystique rather poorly.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#116077: Feb 28th 2020 at 8:54:22 AM

[up][up] The idea that Carol needs another character to bounce off of isn't entirely wrong, but it's also not really a problem in need of a solution because the first Captain Marvel movie already set up such a character: Monica Rambaeu.

That all being said, there are all sorts of characters who could make an appearance in Captain Marvel 2, Wolverine is among them. But that's more because, like all MCU films, it takes place in an interconnected universe and Marvel is always going to be looking for cross-over possibilities.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#116078: Feb 28th 2020 at 8:55:26 AM

Straight man/comic relief is such a standard formula in storytelling that it'd be hard to find a work where it isn't used to some extent. Except in very rare examples, the protagonist is the straight man. Yet for some reason we freak out when that role is played by a female.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 28th 2020 at 11:58:51 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#116079: Feb 28th 2020 at 11:18:12 AM

[up]No really? I mean quill and gamora are that, and you can said tony is comedy man, just not a goofball.

I will said carol really need someone to complement her, like cap they are very stright foward and that can come as bland.

Falcon, bucky and natasha did a wonderfull job bring the best of cap and saving being for being dull as hell, carol need something like that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
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Lost in Space
#116080: Feb 28th 2020 at 11:20:06 AM

Well, some films break the formula by having everyone be comic relief. That's more of the exception that proves the rule.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#116081: Feb 28th 2020 at 11:21:34 AM

[up]Like ragnarok? everyone there is a comedy relief in one from of another.

except odin but he die like 5 minutes.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116082: Feb 28th 2020 at 12:00:43 PM

Falcon and Winter Soldier set photo. Some folks are thinking dude in the middle is Battlestar, John Walker's sidekick.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#116084: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:08:12 PM

So, is Walker gonna be the asshole he's portrayed as in comics, or will he be more nuanced?

One Strip! One Strip!
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#116085: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:09:53 PM

Make him Ultimate Cap and I'm sold (and yes, I am 100% genuine with that).

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116086: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:38:23 PM

Walker's comic portrayal wasn't actually as black and white as "asshole Cap" leads people to believe. His entire arc was basically about a troubled and flawed young man trying to become The Cape, and then having a complete fucking meltdown when the pressure from that eventually got to him. He initially thought Steve Rogers was a wuss, but was forced to accept that Steve was clearly a much stronger man than him if he was able to actually be Captain America without cracking.

Edited by comicwriter on Feb 28th 2020 at 2:41:13 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116087: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:44:13 PM

Also, after he fired his former sidekicks (Left-Winger and Right-Winger — yes, the book wasn't being subtle), they leaked his identity to the public and the Watchdogs killed his parents.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 28th 2020 at 2:44:21 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116088: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:44:47 PM

Yeesh

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#116089: Feb 28th 2020 at 2:55:18 PM

And then....he rekt their shit.

Like hardcore. Scans Daily has that issue where it happened. Man it was some scary shit.

One Strip! One Strip!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116090: Feb 28th 2020 at 3:30:27 PM

https://mcucosmic.com/2020/02/28/squadron-supreme-rumored-to-appear-in-loki/

I have nothing against Hyperion, but I would like they to confirm characters that have had a closer relationship with Loki in the comics, such as Amora, Verity, Lorelei, among others.

I can't help thinking that the series as a whole will be just a Poorly Disguised Pilot.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 28th 2020 at 3:35:48 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116091: Feb 28th 2020 at 4:06:21 PM

I wouldn't trust anything MCU Cosmic says.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116092: Mar 1st 2020 at 11:47:52 AM

Even so I hope they confirm characters that are more related to Loki.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#116094: Mar 1st 2020 at 12:51:42 PM

he can't be She Hulk!

or,can he..

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116095: Mar 1st 2020 at 12:52:43 PM

I was almost certain that Bruce would be The Ghost

That is to say, Jennifer would mention that she received a blood transfusion from her cousin, but that's it.

—-

I wonder if there will be a hope that Thor has a cameo in his brother's series.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 1st 2020 at 12:53:40 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#116096: Mar 1st 2020 at 12:55:08 PM

For obvious reasons (CG) it'll likely only be in a couple episodes at most. Maybe even do what the failed She-Hulk pilot did and have him just show up in the first episode for the transfusion.

Unless they find an excuse to have Hulk back in his human form, which in that case is easier because you just have to worry about Mark Ruffalo's salary.

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#116097: Mar 1st 2020 at 1:49:48 PM

  • Bruce: Hey guys, I'm here in my human form to give blood.
  • Jen: Wait, didn't you and the Hulk merge or something in Endgame? It happened offscreen so the details weren't really clear.
  • Bruce: Yeah. And in Infinity War, I couldn't become the Hulk at all. And in Ragnarok, I became the Hulk permanently and would never, ever be in human Banner form again. Nobody cares what my status quo was in the last movie.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 1st 2020 at 2:50:01 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116098: Mar 1st 2020 at 1:57:04 PM

wild mass guessMark Ruffalo will just walk in as a human in green paint and everyone will act like that's the Hulk.wild mass guess

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 1st 2020 at 1:59:46 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#116099: Mar 1st 2020 at 2:01:33 PM

If I had to guess, I'd think that the explanation would be that Professor Hulk changed back to Banner at some point in order to heal his arm. Or else, you could just have it that Professor Hulk gives a transfusion to Jennifer. I know the Hulk tends to have impenetrable skin, but that's generally in connection with his Unstoppable Rage, which wouldn't apply here.

Edited by Hodor2 on Mar 1st 2020 at 4:05:40 AM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116100: Mar 1st 2020 at 2:03:03 PM

They can also make the blood donation scene take place in the past, before the fusion of personalities took place.


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