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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115827: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:43:42 PM

[up][up]Or Luke Cage saying the fro and tiara made him look like a fool. That would be my use for it. A one scene gag that establishes maybe this doesn’t work in real life, but we can all have a good laugh about it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115828: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:44:18 PM

[up][up] Ouch........

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 20th 2020 at 5:46:56 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#115829: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:56:43 PM

[up][up]In fact if the trailers do not lie, in the Wanda & Vision series they will make a joke at the expense of the classic costume.

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I imagine that in the She-Hulk series they will do something similar to the animated series. (Regarding the suit.)

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[up]*3 The classic cowards who take advantage of the anonymity of the internet to threaten someone for a lesser reason.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 20th 2020 at 6:01:42 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115830: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:35:08 PM

[up][up][up][up]Dumb and stupid and awful and bad and I hate it.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115831: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:38:31 PM

And sadly not too surprising.

It's a woman daring to criticize something on the Internet, after all. Something the article notes right at the beginning.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2020 at 10:39:00 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115832: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:43:16 PM

Parker and Stone better weigh in and shut this shit down.

One Strip! One Strip!
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115833: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:43:46 PM

[up]They almost never do.

Should I be surprised this led to death threats?

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 20th 2020 at 9:45:01 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115834: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:44:41 PM

Seriously?

They're gonna let people do that in their name?

I know they're counter cultural, but I figured they were better than that.

One Strip! One Strip!
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115835: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:45:37 PM

[up]I cannot think of a single time they rebuked their own audience. If I’m wrong please someone let me know.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115836: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:47:49 PM

I'm really disappointed to hear that.

One Strip! One Strip!
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115837: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:49:05 PM

I've honestly never thought South Park was really all it's cracked up to be either, I think if it's not annoying if not offensive it's just boring.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115838: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:49:34 PM

The "funny" thing is that this shitstorm more or less proved her point about South Park and its impact.

[up]South Park used to be funny when it first aired, but it hasn't aged well.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2020 at 10:52:34 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115839: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:52:56 PM

Aren’t the games good?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115840: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:55:31 PM

They're decent — way better than most licensed games. First one's kind of short for an RPG though.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2020 at 10:55:45 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115841: Feb 20th 2020 at 7:16:51 PM

This is very sad to hear.

True, I barely watch South Park myself anymore, but I figured they'd be a little more...discerning about how their fans act.

One Strip! One Strip!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#115842: Feb 20th 2020 at 7:53:59 PM

Plus she's got a point: South Park did used to be a show about turning people the creators didn't like or disagreed with into caricatures, saying fuck you to anyone who didn't like what you were saying, and essentially being tailor made escapism for immature kids and teenagers.

It had it's strong episodes, yeah, but it's still relatively recently that the show has taken a turn into consistently strong characterization and coherent social commentary, and it's all the better for it now. And from the way they write now, I don't think Matt and Trey look back at the earlier seasons of South Park all that fondly either.

I'm part of the South Park generation myself, and to be honest I don't think South Park really became a consistently good show until a few years ago.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 20th 2020 at 7:57:49 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115843: Feb 20th 2020 at 8:50:07 PM

South Park did used to be a show about turning people the creators didn't like or disagreed with into caricatures, saying fuck you to anyone who didn't like what you were saying, and essentially being tailor made escapism for immature kids and teenagers.
Hey, remember the ManBearPig episode that made fun of Al Gore and climate change? I guess we could all stop worrying about that now, can't we? Worrying about stuff is stupid and trying to change stuff is even stupider according to South Park!

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#115844: Feb 20th 2020 at 9:35:21 PM

[up] To be fair, that's one of the few things Trey and Matt have walked back on.

While I am a fan of South Park, there's a lot of viewpoints they've espoused that I don't agree with. There's a lot to criticize about the show and some of their episodes have not held up well.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 20th 2020 at 12:35:46 PM

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#115845: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:09:08 PM

Which movies in the MCU do you see being selected for preservation by the National Film Registry?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#115846: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:12:28 PM

Probably Black Panther, although I'd like The Winter Soldier to be held up for consideration considering how much of its themes continue to resonate into the present.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115847: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:14:28 PM

Iron Man cause its the perfect superhero film.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#115848: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:16:16 PM

What about the first Avengers movie?

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#115849: Feb 21st 2020 at 7:13:14 AM

Probably Black Panther, although I'd like The Winter Soldier to be held up for consideration considering how much of its themes continue to resonate into the present.

Agreed with both of these choices.

I used to resent Winter Soldier for what seemed very much like a Debate and Switch. "Freedom v. Security, which should we— WHOOPS SECURITY TEAM IS SECRET NAZIS, guess that answers that!"

Now it just feels weirdly prescient.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#115850: Feb 21st 2020 at 7:16:23 AM

Black Panther holds up better. As an action movie Winter Soldier is done well. It fails as a political thriller.


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