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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115751: Feb 19th 2020 at 5:53:26 PM

[up]Like you and starlord?tongue

Or me and wanda.

Or.....almost everyone with Iron fist.

Edited by unknowing on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:57:03 AM

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#115752: Feb 19th 2020 at 5:58:33 PM

To be fair, Peter Quill is a complete dipshit, but that's part of why I love him. Flawless heroes are boring.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:01:57 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115753: Feb 19th 2020 at 6:01:44 PM

[up]After facing is planet size dick of a father, im very forgiving of quill.

Also, he didnt built a murder robot, lie about is machurian agent friend or throw hulk on a city, Peter is pretty chill all things considered.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#115754: Feb 19th 2020 at 7:21:41 PM

Speaking of Quill, i wish the MCU version had his element gun.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115755: Feb 19th 2020 at 7:26:52 PM

I hate Quill entirely for his one action.

But I'm waiting for him to suffer as he redeems himself.

He's off to a good start, being punched in the face by War Machine, rejected by Past Gamora, and then basically being mocked by Thor.

Hopefully Guardians 3 will continue this as the universe continues to shit on him, while getting him to save it anyway.[lol]

And then once it's ground him into dust, I'll maybe forgive him.

One Strip! One Strip!
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115756: Feb 19th 2020 at 7:57:01 PM

The guy just can't catch a break. Basically every movie he's in feels the need to kick him in the teeth in some fashion. Even when he's brought back to life he's forced to carry on without the Gamora he knew.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115757: Feb 19th 2020 at 7:58:53 PM

They gotta stop portraying Quill as a man-child.

I know that's Pratt's thing but they gotta move on from it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115758: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:01:12 PM

It felt like he had gone through some needed maturity by the end of Guardians 2 but Infinity War then reset that.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115759: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:11:25 PM

[up][up]Specially after he learn what happen to his mother.

I mean Ego is probably one of the most despicable villian, even when is plan is rubbish that is just there because comic book.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#115760: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:19:30 PM

There's a part of me that hopes that the next GOTG film has an arc where Quill doesn't end up together with Gamora.

I can imagine the film having Quill trying his hardest to restart his relationship, but not really understanding that the Gamora that's alive now isn't the one who fell in love with him. And no matter how hard he tries, this Gamora is just not into him. So ultimately, Quill has to learn to let Gamora go and live with the fact that the Gamora he knew is never coming back.

I think that'd be the best way to address their relationship post-Endgame and not run into the problems of 2014!Gamora being a Replacement Goldfish.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 19th 2020 at 11:20:11 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115761: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:36:57 PM

I'd be fine with an anti-romance plot like that. I really appreciated Doctor Strange not hooking back up with his ex, too.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Feb 19th 2020 at 11:37:49 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115762: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:06:38 PM

Granted, while I want that too, I also want Quill to find peace and quietness of a sort, is already to hard to lose gamora to have the fact there is another.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#115763: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:07:21 PM

I'd rather both Gamora be in a plot that wasn't about whether or not she would fall for Quill at all for once, but it's inevitable that the next movie will be after they left things, so meh.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:07:30 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115764: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:26:45 PM

I admit, I'm looking forward to that plot point too. Quill learning to move on from Gamora (the one he knew) and accepting the current one isn't her would be good.

He deserves some closure there, since he really did try to honour her wishes (when push came to shove he pulled the trigger like she asked).

After much suffering of course. Because he's gotta hurt. My vindictiveness demands it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115765: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:51:47 PM

Plot twist: Quill accepts that his "one" is gone, and rather than find a new long-term squeeze, goes back to just being an intergalactic slut.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115766: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:53:25 PM

He shall make it his life-goal to fornicate with every sentient species in the universe.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115767: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:54:17 PM

Like father like son, except without the part where he uses his kids as batteries to assimilate the universe.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115768: Feb 19th 2020 at 10:04:39 PM

So he become comic book tony stark. got ittongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115769: Feb 19th 2020 at 10:36:45 PM

wild mass guessStar-Lord will spend Guardians 3 thinking Gamora's gonna "leave" him for Adam Warlock, only for her to date Mantis instead.wild mass guess

Gunn, you promised.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 19th 2020 at 10:40:07 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115770: Feb 19th 2020 at 10:39:38 PM

wild mass guessNebula and Mantis take some time off to hang out in New Asgard.wild mass guess

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115771: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:08:28 AM

Dammit, I want Phyla-Vell and Moondragon to join the team.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#115772: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:29:56 AM

The fun thing about Quill is that he has a rather decent character development in the GotG films. Only Infinity War and Endgame have done their best to turn him into a joke, to the point it sometimes feel like a different character. Even the relationship with his teammates is different. I was actually reminded of Robin in Teen Titans Go (sorry for mentioning that show).

Now I wonder if GotG 3 will resume his characterisation from the GotG series or from Endgame.

Edited by C105 on Feb 20th 2020 at 9:33:53 PM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115773: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:34:05 AM

I love Infinity War and Endgame but I really get the impression they didn't know how to write Star-Lord. Not only is he Flanderized, he's also regressed on all his character development.

I wonder if there's some spite in there, given his role in IW is to needlessly bicker with his crew, get emasculated by Thor, and then "ruin" the Thanos plan, while his role in Endgame is to get his past self punched out while dancing and his present self knee'd in the groin, and then squabble with Thor some more. It's all pretty funny but it also feels like they just threw everything out to make him a joke character.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Feb 20th 2020 at 3:35:08 PM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#115774: Feb 20th 2020 at 1:18:52 AM

Gunn was brought in to deal with the Guardian parts of the script, so if there actually is a character change from his movies (which I honestly never felt in either Infinity War nor Endgame), it was done with Gunn's knowledge.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#115775: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:56:14 AM

Gunn confirmed that in the original script they had Peter choke on pulling the trigger on Gamora when Thanos had her on Knowhere. He demanded that change to where he did pull the trigger only to have it fail thanks to Thanos having the Reality Stone.

He didn't confirm any other changes to the script.


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