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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#115701: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:37:50 PM

Supergirl and Doctor Sleep's Carl Lumbly is joining The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

Some suspect this will set up Patriot.

(Fun fact: Lumbly is also Martian Manhunter from the Justice League cartoon!)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 18th 2020 at 9:40:11 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115702: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:47:11 PM

Oh, cool. Yeah, he could definitely be Isaiah Bradley or even Josiah X.

Fun fact: Carl Lumbly was also M.A.N.T.I.S.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 18th 2020 at 6:48:46 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115703: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:52:22 PM

I don't know if they'll use Isaiah or Eli Bradley since they've disappeared from Marvel's pages for a long time due to copyright issues. Though Eli did recently have a cameo in Marvel #1000, so maybe those are getting sorted out.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115704: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:55:48 PM

The other option, which would also be awesome, would be Adam Brashear. After all, they do appear to be setting up Al Ewing's Ultimates, too.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 18th 2020 at 6:58:39 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115705: Feb 18th 2020 at 7:03:32 PM

Huh, if so I wonder if they'll discuss if SHIELD tried to or didn't recruit Blue Marvel into the Avengers.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#115706: Feb 18th 2020 at 7:22:26 PM

I think he could be Isiah Bradley and the show will somehow deal with the government's attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum after Steve went into the ice.

Bonus: yet another piece of the Young Avengers they seem to be setting up.

Edited by comicwriter on Feb 18th 2020 at 7:37:33 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115707: Feb 18th 2020 at 7:37:17 PM

That will be going into some really dark territory. Project: Rebirth and what it did to Isaiah and the other black soldiers was "inspired" by the Tuskogee Syphilus Study and it shows.

It's been a recurring theme in Marvel comics that black heroes had it rough. Heck, just look at Blue Marvel. His backstory is that he was pressured to go into retirement after he got unmasked because the public couldn't handle the idea of a prominent black superhero. He didn't get back into action until decades later when people became less hostile to seeing a black guy flying around in tights.

Edited by M84 on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:39:30 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#115708: Feb 18th 2020 at 7:39:37 PM

I always thought Lance Reddick would make a great Blue Marvel.

Anyway, with John Walker in the show, Lumbly could always be Battlestar.

[up]

He was still active, but as a science adventurer.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:42:07 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115709: Feb 18th 2020 at 7:47:11 PM

[up]Nah, he got tenure after his first retirement from being a superhero and started a family. And he even got the Presidential Medal of Freedom from JFK when he retired, showing that he was appreciated by some people at least. Unfortunately that happiness didn't last.

Edited by M84 on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:51:32 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#115710: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:04:26 PM

[up]

Yeah and after that he became a scientist explorer going on adventures with his son ala Johnny Quest. It was shown in Mighty Avengers.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115711: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:12:47 PM

Didn't that also go horribly wrong, with his older son becoming trapped in another dimension and mutating into a horrible monster while his younger son blamed his father for it and became a Mad Scientist supervillain as part of his desperate efforts to save his older brother?

...Still a way better adventurer dad than Jonas Venture Sr.

Edited by M84 on Feb 19th 2020 at 12:13:18 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115712: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:14:03 PM

That guy is a fucking dick.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#115713: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:16:45 PM

Didn't that also go horribly wrong, with his older son becoming trapped in another dimension and mutating into a horrible monster while his younger son blamed his father for it and became a Mad Scientist supervillain as part of his desperate efforts to save his older brother?

... comic books, man.

Though this is actually something that can be really annoying about comics. Family groups can't be happy, and characters - even ones who have already answered the call - have to have awful things happen to the people around them to be spurred into heroics.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115714: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:22:27 PM

Also, he's a widower because his wife (originally his SHIELD agent handler) was killed in a fight with a supervillain after he had already officially retired to life as a professor.

Disgusted, but not surprised
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115716: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:25:14 PM

He is at least not another example of Electric Black Guy — his powerset revolves around anti-matter.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115717: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:31:12 PM

Unlike Idris Elba's character from Hobbs & Shaw, he actually is a black Superman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#115718: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:48:52 PM

He also recently jobbed to Silver Sable in a Dr Doom comic.

Blue Marvel just does not catch a break.

Character details on She-Hulk.

[up] Elba's character was more like black Deathstroke.

Edited by windleopard on Feb 18th 2020 at 8:49:21 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115719: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:54:12 PM

[up] Wait how did he job to Sable?

Also hahaha black Deathstroke, that actually is accurate. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#115720: Feb 18th 2020 at 9:01:24 PM

Wait how did he job to Sable?

To make a long and kind of dumb story short, Blue Marvel wanted to arrest Doom and Silver protested because she needed him free for her own reasons. A fight broke out and she body slammed Adam.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115721: Feb 18th 2020 at 9:05:41 PM

That's bullshit.

Pretty sure Blue Marvel is one of the heaviest heavy hitters. Sable should have gotten splattered just looking at him.

I know it's all the one who wins is who the writer wants to win but there's taking that concept too far.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115722: Feb 18th 2020 at 9:10:07 PM

At that point you might as well have Bob Agent of Hydra obliterate Galactus by finger-flicking him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#115723: Feb 18th 2020 at 9:21:30 PM

NEXT EVENT: Bob, Agent of...Galactus?!

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115724: Feb 18th 2020 at 9:49:18 PM

Why not? Deadpool served a stint as a Herald once after responding to Galactus' ad in the Classifieds.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115725: Feb 18th 2020 at 10:05:46 PM

Aunt May is still the best Herald of Galactus though.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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