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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Well, that plays into what Ju was talking about: Deadpool's relationship with Cable is played for antagonistic laughs while his relationship with the bizarrely female Death is treated with more dignity and respect.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.In comparison? To, uh, other relationships? I mean, his entire thing with Death is because he can't die, they can't be together, but also: DICK JOKES. And Thanos curses him to look like Tom Cruise.
Seriously, though, none of Deadpool's relationships are taken seriously, aside from the relationship with his daughter and his adopted son. Those is 100% serious.
Edited by alliterator on Feb 13th 2020 at 7:55:52 AM
I'd say Fred is definitely onto something there, as a fan of Deadpool. Deadpool's origin story (shown in the same arc he fights juiced up Ajax/Francis) puts a lot more dramatic tearjerking emphasis on his love affair with Death than I've ever seen any sort of romantic deal with Cable be treated. Cable and Pool do have their moments, but those are inevitably the more "friendship" moments than "romantic" ones.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."And his crush on Spider-Man is treated as a joke where the punchline is that it makes Spider-Man uncomfortable.
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I have to admit that because of that, I sort of hate Spider-Man and Deadpool's relationship. Like, 99% of the time it's a bromance and it's great, but Deadpool's continued badgering of Spidey despite his insistence that he's not interested and it makes him uncomfortable kind of ruins it for me. If Peter was a woman, this joke would not be allowed to go on as long.
I've come to make an announcement.
I want to get myself away from shows about card games so I'm going to be watching Daredevil: Season 2.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Season 2's first half (more specifically first 4 episodes or so) is damn gripping, mostly because of Castle. It unfortunately goes downhill rather hard in the second half. I'm still yet to watch Season 3 (I kinda lost interest once I found out the Netflix marvel-verse was getting canned thanks to Disney+).
Season 3 is probably some of the best superhero television ever made. You should definitely watch it. It's up there with season 1 and in some ways surpasses it.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."It's not lost on me how the Netflix side (sans JJ) largely improved after they stopped using the Hand. A bunch of lame, flat Yellow Peril baddies complete with a waste of Sigourney Weaver among their leadership? Nah dog, here's Bushmaster, Typhoid Mary, Billy Russo and Bullseye.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)What's odd to me is that it didn't have to be that way? It just seemed like they didn't bother putting in the effort. The white villains like Fisk and Castle have humanizing backstories and complex characterizations that make them really compelling, meanwhile the Hand feels like it was lifted wholesale from old comic books with no effort to improve or modernize the material or make the Hand members strong characters on the same level. In fact the writing effectively dehumanizes them at multiple points. It's pretty bad.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 15th 2020 at 4:15:29 PM
The Hand was a pretty fascinating case of an adaptation being very faithful to the source material to the point of causing problems. Daredevil as a whole is very true to the character's roots, and guys like Fisk and Bullseye work because they have this wealth of character material to draw from. They did the exact same with the Hand, sticking to the roots....but the roots of the Hand were always "two-dimensional ninjas".
The show adapted the Hand perfectly. It just tripped on the curtain and revealed that the Hand were always pretty shit.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I'd go as far as to say that the first four episodes of Daredevil's second season are the peak of the entire Marvel Netflix library. The sheer terror the Punisher brings with him, the "Not 'they'. Him." line, the rooftop scene and subsequent hallway fight, the sudden turnabout when the Irish mob's boss returns from Ireland and leads an actual retaliation against the Punisher...
But then it just takes a huge nosedive once Elektra shows up. It's not just the Hand being flat villains, it's also the fact that the show tries to run the Hand plotline and continue the Punisher plotline simultaneously despite there being zero connective tissue between them (a problem Punisher's own second season would replicate, but it still managed to be good in spite of that).
I still enjoyed Daredevil Season 2, and the fight choreography remains fun, but the plotting really falls apart in a bad way.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Feb 15th 2020 at 6:24:40 AM
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If I remember correctly, doesn’t Cable treat Deadpool like the nuisance he is?
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.