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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#115576: Feb 12th 2020 at 11:28:38 AM

I'm just wondering if they'll use Gambit's explosive cards,its a concept that works well in the comics/cartoons but in live action I'm slightly less convinced

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115577: Feb 12th 2020 at 11:35:13 AM

Storm is marketable. She checks lots of boxes. They'd do well to capitalize on the Deadpool characters, too. Domino, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Domino, Colossus and Domino are really fun characters.

[up] Gambit would be easy fanservice. Maybe stick him in a Rogue solo movie post Face Turn.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 12th 2020 at 2:38:45 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#115578: Feb 12th 2020 at 11:38:04 AM

Though I would've loved a more comic accurate look for Domino.

She is my favorite C-Lister.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115579: Feb 12th 2020 at 11:41:00 AM

Like, she was the best part of Deadpool 2. The Juggernaut being a genuine surprise was the second best thing.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#115580: Feb 12th 2020 at 12:15:39 PM

I feel like the X-Men will include Deadpool and whoever comes with him.

The legend has returned.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115582: Feb 12th 2020 at 6:33:34 PM

On an unrelated note, you had one job, T'challa.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115583: Feb 12th 2020 at 6:44:51 PM

That's not fair, and we all know it.

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115585: Feb 13th 2020 at 12:25:06 PM

Looks like Ozer Ercan is gonna be in Eternals. Don't know who that is but cool I guess?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115587: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:27:49 PM

So, do we know how Tony knew the Tesseract and Dr. Pym (and more Pym Particles) were in the same place at the same time?

Got someone who's insisting it's suspicious, so now I need a concrete answer.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#115588: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:32:21 PM

[up] Maybe Tony heard it from his dad?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 13th 2020 at 6:32:33 AM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#115589: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:33:34 PM

[up]*3 Speaking of characters sexuality.

It is noteworthy that in the comics Loki and Deadpool are technically bisexual, But Not Too Bi.

In other words, they are almost always interested in women and if they are interested in a man it will usually be played for comedy.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 13th 2020 at 3:34:07 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115590: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:33:59 PM

Is that someone you, Rob? Don’t be shy.

Edited by fredhot16 on Feb 13th 2020 at 3:38:02 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115591: Feb 13th 2020 at 3:37:10 PM

....Well as it stands now, Tony knows that date...

  • because it's the day he was born (during his talk with Howard, the latter states his wife is pretty far along in her pregnancy) and his parents gave him the story about it;

  • During his research about where to go for the time heist, Tony went through old Shield files (which he'd still have from the Avengers) and discovered that tidbit, but since they realized they could snatch the Tesseract, Eye of Agamotto and the Scepter all at once, he forgot it until Scott's ranting made him remember;

The first one doesn't explain how he knew Pym Particles would be there. The second one doesn't explain why he chose specific date he did.

I admit there are a lot of holes. We might never know where he came up with it.

Edit: [up] No, not me. A family member.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Feb 13th 2020 at 4:39:11 AM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#115593: Feb 13th 2020 at 4:01:03 PM

That's the one point that bugs me most in Endgame. I wish there would have been at least a sentence explaining how Tony knew that.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#115594: Feb 13th 2020 at 4:08:53 PM

@ Gay Kiss

I bet the scene itself is going to be the kind that's visible but easy to block out, just like the Star Wars scene.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 13th 2020 at 7:09:07 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115595: Feb 13th 2020 at 4:18:12 PM

Oh God it better be something with actual substance.

I'm still shocked by how terrible that Star Wars attempt was.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115596: Feb 13th 2020 at 4:30:16 PM

It is noteworthy that in the comics Loki and Deadpool are technically bisexual, But Not Too Bi.
Deadpool isn't bisexual, he's pansexual. And he has shown attraction to guys before (especially Cable).

As for Loki — well, that's a different story. For most of their history, Loki appeared as a man and never really had any love interests. Post-Kid Loki, however, they were genderfluid and had one love interest (Leah). So I'd say both of those statements are technically incorrect.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#115597: Feb 13th 2020 at 6:22:28 PM

Loki has had love interests before Kid Loki, he had a wife. Though how they got married was messed up.

And he has had a few kids with mortal women.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 13th 2020 at 10:37:51 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115598: Feb 13th 2020 at 6:26:12 PM

Oh boy, Loki's marriage to Sigyn in the comics was super fucked up. It started with him performing a Kill and Replace on her fiance. Yeah...

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#115599: Feb 13th 2020 at 6:36:07 PM

It's easy to forget how creepy Loki used to be.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#115600: Feb 13th 2020 at 6:39:01 PM

"Deadpool isn't bisexual, he's pansexual. And he has shown attraction to guys before (especially Cable)."

But the point is that his relationships with women are treated with relative seriousness, while his relationships with men are treated as simple jokes.

—-

Loki's relationship with Sigyn despite being far from the level of Joker and Harley, was still very toxic and abusive.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 13th 2020 at 6:42:52 AM


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