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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Yeah but in terms of like accepted narrative rules.
It is widely regarded that even the worst mass murderer is more redeemable than a rapist.
Its why the rapist always gets offed & never redeemed or treated with any sense of greyness.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 10th 2020 at 6:26:19 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."What I don't get is why you'd want a more heroic Lorelei.
For that matter, I still think Loki got off way too easy for gleefully heading straight to genocide with the Frost Giants and attempting genocide with humanity.
Kill 'em all and let Buri sort 'em out.
Edited by Gaon on Feb 10th 2020 at 6:28:16 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."To me it seems like the simplest route would be making this more sympathetic Lorelei a relative of a more traditionally antagonistic one. "One is a remorseless rapist, one isn't" sounds like sufficient differentiation to go the route of Decomposite Character.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."So the new writer of Thor: Love and Thunder:
It's a family tradition. Thor got off easy for trying to genocide the Frost Giants, since he was considered completely forgiven for it at the end of his movie, and unlike Loki, he wasn't in the middle of a mental breakdown brought on by an existential crisis at the time. Odin spent the majority of his life enjoying the benefits from conquering and enslaving the Nine Realms. Loki getting punished for it and the punishment not being entirely lifted after a handful of days is the anomaly.
Edited by Ayasugi on Feb 10th 2020 at 11:49:44 AM
So a few nights ago I sat down and finished Cloak and Dagger season 1. Color me impressed. Mostly good writing, dynamite performances, great soundtrack, and episode 7 especially really tugged at my heartstrings. ofc it also delves right into subject matter that's achingly relevant and relatable and combined with the rest of the show's tone and feel it just makes it sting all the more that these shows were culled one after the other, hopefully Moon Knight fills that street-level void.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)@Ayasugi: The only one of those remotely comparable is Odin. Thor went to start a war with the frost giants and knocked out/killed a handful. Which is pretty bad, but Loki literally turned on a domsday device to bring upon a extinction-level event towards Jotunheim with 0 remorse (and we actually see several Jotuns being wiped out by it on-screen). Not the same thing.
One could make the case that Thor atoned for his attempted war by saving Jotunheim from Loki's absolute annihilation at no actual profit to himself (in fact, given the Jotuns hated his guts, letting Loki go forward would be considerably to his advantage). Loki never really gave any sort of gesture back to the people he tried to ethnically cleanse.
Granted, this is also part of the overall problem that Jotunheim drops off the face of the Nine Realms after the first Thor and the evident ramifications of their king being dead and a Asgardian brat trying to wipe them out wholesale are never explored.
Edited by Gaon on Feb 11th 2020 at 8:46:41 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Retroactively Thor going down a path like Hela is a good explanation for why Odin reacts like Odin do
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI heard an early plan for Thor: Ragnarok was that Loki would've left Thor after Asgard's destruction and go into hiding on Jotunheim. Avengers: Infinity War would then open up with Thanos arriving on Jotunheim and killing Loki to get the Tesseract.
The Supreme Intelligence and Yon-Rogg/Magnitron are still around by the end of Captain Marvel. My suggestion was always to have the villain of the sequel be The Supreme Intelligence taking Yon-Rogg's body as a Composite Character.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

Yeah but Loki's a murderer.
Lor is a rapist.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."