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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#115301: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:29:28 PM

I mean, Christian Bale is a big actor, so he might be a multi-film villain, like Thanos was.

Yeah, but Thanos is a major recurring character in the comics. He's a different kind of big deal.

The Beyonder is an event-based big deal. Like, he's a big deal in the sense that his one story that he's known for is a huge multi-crossover event. But outside of that one event, like, he has a few scant appearances here and there but that's it. Secret War is his thing. He doesn't do a whole lot else.

It'd be like introducing Cul Borson in a Captain America movie to set up Fear Itself. Like. You could, sure. F*ck if I know what you think you're going to do with him, though.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 4th 2020 at 11:30:00 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#115302: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:30:05 PM

I'd love it if he was playing Jormungandr.

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#115303: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:31:34 PM

I'd be down for Bale as Jormungandr.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#115305: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:32:33 PM

What if Bale's the Kraven guy? I'd be down for a crazy Christian Bale trying to kill Spidey for sport.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#115306: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:33:21 PM

I just now realized Thor is destined to be killed by his nephew.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115307: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:34:05 PM

"The--the Beyonder? Oh god, I should never have taught that guy to poop--"

What if Bale's the Kraven guy? I'd be down for a crazy Christian Bale trying to kill Spidey for sport.
But why would a Spider-Man villain show up in a Thor film?

Edited by alliterator on Feb 4th 2020 at 10:34:39 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#115308: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:36:49 PM

@slimcoder

Word of God is that they based Hela's powers on Gorr's.

Here's an excerpt from an article covering this:

“A lot of the design of Hela is a combination of the early Jack Kirby stuff but also...especially his power set, the villain Gorr, who has a very specific power set of being able to manifest an infinite number of weapons,” executive producer Brad Winderbaum said during a press visit to the set of Thor: Ragnarok in Australia.

Gorr the God-Butcher is a character created by Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic in the pages of Thor: God of Thunder. Gorr was a mortal alien who came into possession of a powerful weapon called All-Black the Necrosword.

As Winderbaum mentions, All-Black is capable of manifesting itself into various shapes which Gorr then uses to commit serial deicide across the universe. The weapon even allows Gorr to spawn his own minions.

By grafting Gorr’s powers onto Hela, the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of the character remains incredibly powerful, but her powers become somewhat more defined.

All-Black's powers aren't specifically shadows. Its power is to manifest constructs made of darkness, mostly in the form of pointy stabby things.

Edited by M84 on Feb 5th 2020 at 2:41:52 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#115309: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:40:32 PM

Well alright then.

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#115310: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:42:02 PM

Shape-shifting black goo.

Not a surprise it turned out to be related to Venom.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115311: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:43:08 PM

All-Black is pretty much Venom on a divine level.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#115312: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:45:54 PM

Clever canon welding there Cates.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115313: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:27:01 PM

Don't we need Owen Reece if we're gonna do Beyonder?

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#115314: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:30:40 PM

[up][up][up]What is the New Zealand national rugby team doing there?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115315: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:46:50 PM

For context: the New Zealand rugby team's name is the All Blacks.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115316: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:56:46 PM

wild mass guessChristian Bale is an early-bird cameo for Moon Knight. Lady Thor encounters the loon during a wild battle with many werewolves. Because that's what I want to see. Thor and not!Batman fighting a horde of werewolves while rock music goes crazy.

THEN KING VALKYRIE RIDES IN ON A PEGASUS, GAEBOLG IN HAND...

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 5th 2020 at 3:04:37 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115317: Feb 5th 2020 at 12:08:51 AM

I wouldn't mind Christian Bale playing Moon Knight. The Machinist proved that he is good at playing disturbed people.

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#115318: Feb 5th 2020 at 12:57:28 AM

@M84 Okay, but is she dead though?

Just Makima.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115319: Feb 5th 2020 at 1:00:08 AM

Who is dead?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115320: Feb 5th 2020 at 5:05:01 AM

Wouldn’t Moon Knight be a bit too cheeky given his past roles? Not to mention Bale for a TV series.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#115321: Feb 5th 2020 at 5:19:21 AM

wonder when Herk and pals will enter the MCU

as well as Beta Ray.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#115322: Feb 5th 2020 at 5:20:44 AM

Still holding out hope for Throg.

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#115324: Feb 5th 2020 at 6:31:11 AM

Throg or Thor Frog

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