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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115251: Feb 4th 2020 at 12:58:33 AM

I'm glad that it looks like Loki is going to clear up the time travel trouble.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#115252: Feb 4th 2020 at 12:59:18 AM

Loki...clear up something?

Loki.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115253: Feb 4th 2020 at 1:06:29 AM

Well, the people who will have had arrested Loki...

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 4th 2020 at 4:08:54 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#115254: Feb 4th 2020 at 1:20:22 AM

What if it just makes it even more confusing?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#115255: Feb 4th 2020 at 1:27:07 AM

At the very face of it, time cops as a concept is a pretty good reason the heroes cant abuse time travel. That's an improvement.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#115256: Feb 4th 2020 at 1:30:05 AM

Loki working for the Time Variance Authority? If that does not get me at least a couple of Doctor Who shout-outs, I will be disappointed.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#115257: Feb 4th 2020 at 3:01:13 AM

In before Tom Hiddleston becomes the new Master

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#115258: Feb 4th 2020 at 9:50:41 AM

@ windleopard Not being there participating in a fight against whoever is attacking whatever city/country again this day of the week (aka Tuesday) is a little different than failing to consistently standing up against systematic racism and persecution in my opinion.

Also, the X-Men aren't that isolated, especially in recent years they've constantly crossed over with other titles.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115259: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:50:39 AM

I agree that the lack of help from other heroes stems more from a meta thing (keeping the X-men in their own bubble, which is apparently Chris Claremont’s fault) and that it’s unfair to hold that against them.

Because it makes zero sense for Captain America to do nothing about Mutant rights.

Marvel should have just said they team up with the X-men all the time off screen and do all they can, and we just don’t see it.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#115260: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:52:31 AM

They sure love to make mutants miserable to keep doing the minority comparisons alive even though that’s been unnecessary for decades.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115261: Feb 4th 2020 at 10:57:24 AM

How much do they actually know about anti-mutant prejudice?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#115262: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:04:36 AM

They know that it exists because the Avengers have been protested for having mutant members and told the protestors to go fuck themselves

Also they’ve tangled with sentinels a few times

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115263: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:07:08 AM

Also the ya know public mob deaths and such.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115264: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:09:29 AM

Sentinels...I still want to see what the MCU does with them.

As for the X-Men, while one could argue the endless persistence of hatred and bigotry is how it works in real life, in terms of the story constantly resetting to the world fearing and hating them (and don’t act like the most recent story won’t end with the mutant nation destroyed and everything back to Square 1) it’s hard for an audience to stay invested.

This is probably why the kids that, if they were in the 90’s would have read X-Men comics and watched the cartoon, are now watching My Hero Academia.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115265: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:22:23 AM

There's some speculation that the Ms. Marvel Disney+ series could tie into Captain Marvel 2 since the actor they are casting for Kamala needs to be available for filming longer than it would take to film the show.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#115266: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:23:17 AM

I kinda don't know how Sentinels can be justified. Consider how Ultron went completely wrong.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#115267: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:25:16 AM

Drones? Each one remote controlled back at base?

Probably not very satisfying for people who like AI uprising gone horribly right Sentinels

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115268: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:25:36 AM

[up]Private military contractors sell them to police forces. Have machines do the work of real cops without risking lives.

And then they go hunt down “those people.”

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#115269: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:27:35 AM

"Ultron was a stark project thus doomed to failure,but this project with the sentinels wont have any involvement from him or Stark industries so it cant go wrong"

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115270: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:27:47 AM

The same way Tony somehow justified EDITH after Ultron. tongue

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115271: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:31:38 AM

[up]Tony was about being the smartest guy in the room. I’m sure the Friends of Humanity have a commercial for the Sentinels about white picket fences and the like. Totally different.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#115272: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:38:05 AM

I mean you could argue they might see Vision as the real progenitor for Sentinels. Perhaps Trask wants a Master Mold who evolves like mutants to better fight them.

Edited by Mizerous on Feb 4th 2020 at 2:38:24 PM

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#115273: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:41:37 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#115274: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:49:17 AM

In fairness EDITH is more a Virtual Intelligence on the lines of JARVIS, FRIDAY, KAREN etc

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115275: Feb 4th 2020 at 11:50:42 AM

Don't trust her with drones though.


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