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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115126: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:20:38 PM

RDJ's Tony Stark really feels like he's become the MCU's analogue to Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, which I and many others also got sick of even if they both largely nailed their roles (also I consider the movies featuring one of those better than the other of those). Too much of a good thing, ya dig?

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#115127: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:21:48 PM

[up]Well he’s gone now. And he went out in a positive way, I would say.

The problem, like wrestling, is when they keep coming back. Make “the last time” matter.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115128: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:39:38 PM

That's difficult.

You're never really gone in Wrestling. Even the oldest of dudes would find themselves coming back eventually, sometimes for money, but often probably for other reasons.

One Strip! One Strip!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#115129: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:44:19 PM

RDJ had a record-breaking salary for his last few Marvel films, so unless he makes a series of catastrophic investments or like, decides to buy a planet, he's probably not gonna be hard up for money anytime soon.

I could see Downey and Evans returning as a one-off thing if Marvel eventually does Secret Wars as their next big climax, however. It gives an excuse to have them fight alongside the newer generation of heroes one last time without actually chickening out and undoing their endings.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115130: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:45:46 PM

I've always thought they can come back for a reprise by playing villainous versions of themselves as the Ultimate's.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115131: Feb 1st 2020 at 7:56:47 PM

[up][up]I can imagine him buying a planet.....and them calling it ego for some reason.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115132: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:07:10 PM

Over in the Knives Out thread, I stated that I think Rian Johnson might make a good director for an X-Men movie. Which now brings me to who he would cast in this hypothetical X-Men film.

And that's all I got.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115133: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:15:43 PM

Knives Out really didn't sell me well on Rian Johnson as a director. For one thing, regarding casting, Daniel Craig cannot do a Southern USA accent at all so I'm not sure why they went with that.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115134: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:19:21 PM

Well, good thing that Professor X is British.

...he is British, right? Have the movies lied to me all these years? Because the wiki says he was born in New York, which means he actually must have a New York accent, but I can't imagine him without a British one.

Whew, wait, the wiki says he went to Oxford and lived in London for a long time, so I'm going to assume that he lived there so long he picked up the accent. So he's a New Yorker with a British accent.

Also, Benoit Blanc is awesome and I will brook no dissent.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 1st 2020 at 9:20:30 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115135: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:21:27 PM

Don't know who Benoit Blanc is, but I'm gonna dissent it anyway.

Just because you dared me to.cool

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115136: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:22:51 PM

Character of Benoit Blanc is great, just the accent attempt sounds really cheesy and fake.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115137: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:22:57 PM

Apparently Johnson's considered just having Blanc switch accents every sequel with no explanation.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 1st 2020 at 9:25:39 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115138: Feb 1st 2020 at 9:35:46 PM

Don't know who Benoit Blanc is, but I'm gonna dissent it anyway.
He's the Gentleman Detective that Daniel Craig plays in Knives Out. Here's a clip of him:

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115139: Feb 1st 2020 at 10:43:54 PM

Watching Thor: The Dark World right now. Yep, inaugural movie of Disney+. I’m a sucker for underdogs.

Nobody told me the Aether looked so delicious.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115140: Feb 1st 2020 at 10:47:47 PM

But I bet the Soul Stone tastes like cream jello.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 1st 2020 at 10:47:59 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115141: Feb 1st 2020 at 10:54:58 PM

Loki: My birthright was to be king!

Odin: Your birthright was to die!

Hashtag Father Of The Year.

Edit: Also part-time shipper?

Edited by fredhot16 on Feb 1st 2020 at 10:59:28 AM

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#115142: Feb 1st 2020 at 11:12:10 PM

It's basically a big ol' meme with how much Odin sucks at parenting and hiding things. Hela may be a real dirtbag but she has just a bit of valid precedent for being mad at him, even if it's overshadowed by a lot of ill intent.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115143: Feb 1st 2020 at 11:25:10 PM

One of the screenwriters for Thor 1 referred to Odin as "the dad from Sanford and Son,"

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115144: Feb 1st 2020 at 11:44:27 PM

[up][up]I mean, hela was making daddy proud and then daddy got pissy for some reason and lock her in her room for years, when she is finally out she find this two weirdos who aparently have a claim to daddy house that she help to build.

I will pissy two.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115145: Feb 1st 2020 at 11:45:19 PM

He finally grew a conscience while she never did.

That’s why she got locked up.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 1st 2020 at 11:47:59 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115146: Feb 1st 2020 at 11:54:13 PM

Odin: Are my words just noise to you?

Thor: She is ill.

Odin: She is mortal. Illness is their defining trait.

Well, screw you too, Popeye.

Edit:

Odin: He killed them all. (Said with a smile).

Theme of this movie: Odin’s a dick.

Edited by fredhot16 on Feb 2nd 2020 at 12:18:01 PM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#115147: Feb 2nd 2020 at 12:29:06 AM

Nice what it here: what if odin really die in the first two movie and hela is release them.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#115148: Feb 2nd 2020 at 12:46:57 AM

All I'm saying is when you look at Loki and Hela, and Odin's top-notch fathering, Thor is actually remarkably well adjusted. He was kind of a jerk for a bit sure but frankly it could have been much worse.

Edited by jakobitis on Feb 2nd 2020 at 12:47:21 PM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115149: Feb 2nd 2020 at 12:54:34 AM

Bah, I’ll finish it in the morning. Just got done with Frigga’s funeral.

Was she in the last movie? I’m halfway through it and I can’t shake the feeling that her death would carry more if she wasn’t just introduced in this one.

Because if not, feeling mournful here would mostly be too quick? Too “mourning because these characters are saddened by it rather then because I like her”?

Gah. Thoughts need to gather.

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#115150: Feb 2nd 2020 at 1:06:13 AM

[up] Frigga was definitely in the first movie.


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