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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#115076: Jan 31st 2020 at 1:24:15 PM

Personally, I think Hank just told the Avengers to piss off and never touch his Pym Particles again. I'm sure he'd allow them to use them to return everything back to their proper timelines, but that's it. If he's not okay with people using his technology to make their own Ant-Man suits, he's sure as hell not going to trust them using it to time travel willy-nilly. Especially since he already has a dim view on the Avengers as it is.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115077: Jan 31st 2020 at 2:08:45 PM

Hey that Marvel Future Avengers Anime is coming to Disney+ on the 28th.

So if anyone is curious what the Avengers look like in a kids anime, nows your chance. tongue

Question is will they also get those other Marvel anime shows?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#115078: Jan 31st 2020 at 2:18:58 PM

The one where kids collect discs containing avengers?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115079: Jan 31st 2020 at 2:23:36 PM

No it appears to be the second one with the anime-only kids training as Avenger Apprentices. Here’s the article.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-01-31/disney-adds-marvel-future-avengers-anime-on-february-28/.156004

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#115080: Jan 31st 2020 at 2:25:53 PM

Personally, I think Hank just told the Avengers to piss off and never touch his Pym Particles again. I'm sure he'd allow them to use them to return everything back to their proper timelines, but that's it. If he's not okay with people using his technology to make their own Ant-Man suits, he's sure as hell not going to trust them using it to time travel willy-nilly. Especially since he already has a dim view on the Avengers as it is.

  • Hank: YOU GAVE MY PYM PARTICLES TO TONY STARK?!
  • Scott: To the Avengers, not to Tony.
  • Hank: I can't believe you gave my Pym Particles to Tony Stark!
  • Scott: Half of the world had been killed! Including you!
  • Hank: I bet that jackass has a whole fleet of shrinking suits because of you.
  • Scott: What? No! Look, he only had your tech for, like, five minutes.
  • Hank: And?
  • Scott: And... uh....
  • Hank: You aren't telling me something. It's that he made shrinking suits.
  • Scott: He did NOT make shrinking suits.
  • Hank: Then WHAT?
  • Scott: HE MADE TIME TRAVEL!!!
  • Hank: ...
  • Scott: He had your tech for five minutes and he invented time travel. There. Are you happy?
  • Hank: I need to sit down.
  • Scott: I mean, it worked out.
  • Hank: You're such an idiot. This is so much worse than I could have imagined.
  • Scott: Dude, we couldn't have saved the world without it!
  • Hank: You just handed Tony Stark the keys to time itself! Do you have any idea what he'll do with them?
  • Scott: I mean, not much since he's dead.
  • Hank: ... what?
  • Scott: Yeah, he died saving the world. There's gonna be an announcement pretty soon.
  • Hank: ... so....
  • Scott: ...
  • Hank: ... what you're telling me....
  • Scott: ...
  • Hank: ... is that in a roundabout sort of way....
  • Scott: ...
  • Hank: I killed Tony Stark?
  • Scott: Oh, for Thor's sake.
  • Hank: JANET!!! BREAK OUT THE GOOD PLATES!!! WE'RE CELEBRATING TONIGHT!!!

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#115081: Jan 31st 2020 at 2:59:25 PM

As much as I appreciate that, part of me hopes Jan has a long talk to Hank.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115082: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:00:44 PM

Isn’t she dead?

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115083: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:02:50 PM

She got pulled out of the Quantum Realm. Then Snapped like 50% of everybody, but now she's fine. She and Hank were even at Tony's funeral.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115084: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:06:51 PM

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 31st 2020 at 3:08:06 AM

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Disasturbator
#115085: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:10:32 PM

See the movie dude

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115086: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:14:06 PM

See both movies in this case.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#115087: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:15:37 PM

I want to thump his snarky post,i'll suffice to say that 'ok I believe you' is only funny in the Kingdom Hearts thread,here it's just annoying

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115088: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:17:32 PM

[up]Well, this inspired a temper.

Like, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. Yeah, I'll take Tuckerscreator's word for it.

I just went for the meme because I thought "O.K, I'll believe you" is pretty much the above response in clip form.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 31st 2020 at 3:20:21 AM

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MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#115089: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:23:22 PM

You know, they could've given Steve his happy ending with Peggy without destroying his character: make it an accident. These quantum device things are basically new technology, right? Well, new tech fails all the time. They could've had Sam confront Old Steve on that bench and go "what the hell, man?" only for Steve to explain that his device malfunctioned when he returned the Tesseract, and he was stranded. By the time the people who could repair it and get him back to the right timeline were around to do it, he was already an old man. He's really sorry, he didn't mean to leave everyone in the lurch like this, etc.

That wraps it all up nicely: he can still pass the shield and the mantle of Captain America on to Sam, Chris Evans still has his definitive out, Steve doesn't just abandon his best friend and all the other people who care about him (especially so soon after all their other losses!) and still having the shield would let the audience infer that Steve didn't just sit idly by and allow terrible things to happen (like Buck being tortured and brainwashed) while he enjoyed his new life, allowing us to still see him as a good man, and not a gaping asshole.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115090: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:26:48 PM

[up][up]I took no offense from it. I thought it was funny. grin

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#115091: Jan 31st 2020 at 3:46:22 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that's been suggested before, and I definitely prefer it that way.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#115092: Jan 31st 2020 at 4:07:51 PM

Hank: ... so... what you're telling me.... is that in a roundabout sort of way... I killed Tony Stark?

Oof. My sides... evil grin

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#115093: Jan 31st 2020 at 4:16:53 PM

So that’s why he was at the funeral

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#115094: Jan 31st 2020 at 4:21:25 PM

Its the only thing that can him by the fact a Stark took his Pym Particles & invented time travel with it.

He's prolly really jelly.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#115095: Jan 31st 2020 at 5:44:15 PM

So this is something amazing being made for Disneyland.

That's a swinging Spider-Man animatronic. The plan is for it be flipping and leaping over the Avengers Campus attraction, due for Summer 2020.

RIP Anaheim birds.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#115096: Jan 31st 2020 at 6:44:12 PM

That's impressive. Especially that it's an actual animatronic instead of some projection.

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#115097: Jan 31st 2020 at 7:07:52 PM

We all know Doctor Strange is the one taking credit for killing Tony Stark. He ordained time itself just to ensure that.

Hank's gonna need to argue with him over the credit.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115098: Jan 31st 2020 at 7:13:06 PM

[up]Because Peter Parker thought his name was made up.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 31st 2020 at 7:21:07 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#115099: Jan 31st 2020 at 7:15:02 PM

Strange decided to kill Stark solely because he shit-talked his use of "hitherto undreamt of".

Don't mess with the Doctor's lexicon.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#115100: Jan 31st 2020 at 7:16:48 PM

"This degree has to be justified somehow."

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