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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#114951: Jan 24th 2020 at 4:28:15 AM

That's the funny thing. Mystique's costume is relatively simple for the most part, as its just a white dress usually with like a skull belt or something. No bright garish colors or patterns, just solid white, easy to adapt to actual clothing. Hell you could even turn it into a full-body jumpsuit which would cut down on the make-up time as you'd only need to apply it to the face.

But of course they didn't because this was the Foxmen & they found superhero costumes not in black leather anathema.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#114952: Jan 24th 2020 at 5:36:29 AM

> they found superhero costumes not in black leather anathema.

Sounds like Batman was working in their costuming department "All superheros wear black,trust me I'm batman"

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114953: Jan 24th 2020 at 5:43:12 AM

I just Googled "Mystique concept art" and I found this piece which would look awesome in a movie.

Also, Rosalind Chao has apparently been cast in Shang-Chi. She will be playing Awkwafina's mother.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2020 at 5:48:45 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114955: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:01:37 AM

[up] There's a skull on her belt. It's small, but you can still see it. Wait, here's the larger version.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 24th 2020 at 6:02:02 AM

Krory21 Since: Jan, 2019
#114956: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:13:28 AM

I'd love it if the potential MCU Mystique got rid of the weird naked lizard skin thing the Fox one had. She's just a blue lady, let her wear clothes and save a lot of makeup time all at once.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114957: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:14:31 AM

See that costume works. [tup]

Though its funny how Natasha is wearing an all white suit now.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 24th 2020 at 6:16:59 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114958: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:34:15 AM

That’s perfect for a comic suit! It was also probably a lot less hours in makeup. Rebecca Romjin was a trooper going through that, but you could have EASILY given that getup to Jennifer Lawrence and cited comic accuracy.

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#114959: Jan 24th 2020 at 7:02:30 AM

The funny thing is that there is no reason for the blue naked lady thing even by the filmmakers' own logic. "Clothes get in the way of shapeshifting"? Yeah, and she breathes through her skin too, I guess.

Mystique gets her clothes by shapeshifting clothes onto her person. That's where they come from. Her powerset includes morphing fashion upon herself. That's kinda how shapeshifters roll.

You see her do this in the movies every time she shapeshifts into a person. She doesn't turn into a naked Senator Kelly; her scales a-flutter and turn into a business suit. The movies know that she can do this. She can a-flutter her scales and have a white dress with a skull belt if she wants to.

She just doesn't. Because reasons. Naked Rebecca Romijn rolling around on the ground reasons.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#114960: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:19:42 AM

But she to be dark and gritty! Who can take yellow spandex seriously?! - Brian Singer supposedly

Edited by Mizerous on Jan 24th 2020 at 12:19:59 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#114961: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:22:53 AM

One thing to consider,to CGI a character to have blue skin for every scene they're is probably expensive,mostly due to working out the lighting would work on their blue skin so they don't come across too weirdly

Blue face Paint is a practical alternative with the downside of 5 hours in the make up chair

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#114962: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:35:24 AM

Of course, why they couldn't find a brand that didn't risk Jennifer Lawrence's health is either a mystery or a show of how stupid they are.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#114963: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:48:16 AM

I have researched the answer and the conclusion I've reached is that Body Paint is meant to be temporary,so the chances are she spent too much time wearing the stuff hence the health effects,which in filming means hours and hours with touch ups,and on a hot day when paint starts running down..yeah no

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#114964: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:51:03 AM

IIRC Zoe also had problems with the green makeup for Gamora, if you noticed she had allot less skin showing for Vol 2 than she did in Vol 1. I think they eventually hit on a mix that gave the right tone on camera that didn't irritate Zoe.

Rebecca in the Fox-Men was actually vomiting blue at some points.

  • EDIT** I believe they try NOT to do full body paint for the reasons above plus its almost impossible to seal to the point where it won't rub off. So yeah touchups all day long

Edited by ShadowWingLG on Jan 24th 2020 at 11:53:26 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114965: Jan 24th 2020 at 10:00:18 AM

[up]It’s like I said, Rebecca was a trooper putting that crap on.

With that being said, could you use anyone besides Mystique? Maybe now Mr. Sinister FINALLY shows up after being teased half a dozen times.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#114967: Jan 24th 2020 at 10:10:00 AM

I think it was once said that at the end of the day the only thing that matters is how it looks on the screen. And that sometimes means that you just deal with it for a few weeks.

Now if its a serious risk to an actors mental or physical health then yeah you tweek a bit. You'll note that there are allot LESS masked scenes for Star Lord in Vol 2 and beyond, that's because that helmet is REALLY claustrophobic and almost gave Chris a few panic attacks not helped with the fact that the original helmet needed a screwdriver to fasten and unfasten it so he couldn't just pull the thing off to catch a breath.

Many actors are SERIOUS troopers for putting up with these things

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114968: Jan 24th 2020 at 10:33:48 AM

My list for Captain Marvel sequels villains I'm into goes:

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114969: Jan 24th 2020 at 11:05:07 AM

I'm not sure if they would want to bring back Minn-Erva, since that would mean the same actress would be playing two roles simultaneously.

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#114970: Jan 24th 2020 at 11:25:40 AM

Like 90% of Mr. Sinister's appearances in the 616 consists of him masturbating furiously about the Summers family. That's, like, his whole character. "OOOOOOOOO SUMMMMERS OOOOOO".

So if they want to bring in Sinister, it's gotta be something that's really about Cyclops.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 24th 2020 at 12:28:13 PM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114971: Jan 24th 2020 at 1:34:48 PM

Another casting call for Multiverse of Madness reveals hints of one Brother Voodoo!

Although he's referred to by name, he's described as "a supporting male lead who is of Caribbean descent." Plus, Haiti is mentioned as a nation associated to the character.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114972: Jan 24th 2020 at 1:43:04 PM

Brother Voodoo makes a lot of sense. Especially when dealing with eldrich horrors and general craziness it may be wise to recruit other magic users.

Edited by Beatman1 on Jan 24th 2020 at 4:45:28 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#114973: Jan 24th 2020 at 1:48:24 PM

> Like 90% of Mr. Sinister's appearances in the 616 consists of him masturbating furiously about the Summers family. That's, like, his whole character. "OOOOOOOOO SUMMMMERS OOOOOO".

and that is why Mr.Sinister has never appeared on film,they keep on insisting on his..habits despite being told its not appropriation motivation for a super villain!

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#114974: Jan 24th 2020 at 2:46:07 PM

And all this in the price of fridging one poor girl for the sake of Cyclops x JEAAAAAAAAAAN

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114975: Jan 24th 2020 at 2:49:54 PM

[up]Just be happy the Fox Men never did Inferno. It’d be 90 minutes if marriage counseling and 30 minutes of fighting soldiers in red when the main villain is really just Magneto again.


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