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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#114901: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:56:00 PM

I have no particular interest in seeing Mystique against Marvel (I'd rather see her against the Supreme Intelligence, Super-Krull, Moondragon and Moonstone, you know, the cosmic foes) but I could see Rogue coming around as The Dragon to another villain. Would be fun.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#114902: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:57:21 PM

Then again Hero Mystique was one of the bad parts of the later X-Men movies so it be refreshing to have her go evil again.

Another thought on Chavez actually appearing. She'd also fit because her power-set involves dimension traveling. It's entirely possible that Strange might find himself lost in-between realms and Chavez becomes a guide for him.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:58:09 PM

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#114903: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:58:13 PM

If Rogue is The Dragon to a non-Mystique character, who would fit? I imagine this is where the Kree’s obsession with evolutionary progress comes in.

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#114904: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:58:29 PM

So we have Cassie possibly becoming Stature soon, Kate Bishop is confirmed once the Hawkeye show untangles itself, Billy and Tommy are rumored for WandaVision, and now this Mac news, yup, I'm definitely seeing the Young Avengers on the horizon.

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#114905: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:59:31 PM

Is refreshing seen evil? I found hero mystique to actually be one of the best part, I cant actually remenber anything intersting bad mystique did aside of being a near slient mook

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#114906: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:00:17 PM

Wait, why's everyone using "Mac"?

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#114907: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:01:09 PM

[up]Short for America? Hell if I know.

[down]Random guessing for the win!

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:02:53 AM

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#114908: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:01:19 PM

Just a nickname for America Chavez that Carol would use a lot for her while they were on the Ultimates.

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#114909: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:02:24 PM

Yes. Females are often seen as "more delicate" then males, hence the guy telling her she was going too fast.

This.

Boys like having girls present for competitive events. But boys don't like competing with girls. We have it ingrained in us from a young age that girls are weak and delicate and incapable of physical exertion. We use phrases like "you throw like a girl" to say that someone is bad at physical activity. We use insults like "pussy" to say that someone is weak and callow.

So boys take extra special offense at girls running faster or throwing farther or hitting harder than they do. It's one thing to be weaker than another boy. That just means the other boy's stronger than you. But if you're weaker than a girl, then you're weaker than someone who is the super weaker than all boys everywhere, and that's an insult to your manhood right there. Is the logic, anyway, and it extends to activities that have nothing to do with muscle strength too.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 23rd 2020 at 2:02:50 AM

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#114910: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:02:34 PM

I prefer it because as venezuelan, seen a hero named chavez would annoy me over and over and over and over.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#114911: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:05:11 PM

Hero Mystique basically hijacked the movies & is barely anything like the actual character.

At least the original portryal was a competant villain whose performence was understated but fearsome.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:07:40 AM

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#114912: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:07:11 PM

For a bunch of reasons I've just up and quit saying "pussy", let alone as an insult.

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#114913: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:09:48 PM

It’s short for Miss America Chavez

Miss America being one of Marvel’s little used golden age IP

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#114914: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:11:52 PM

Yes. Females are often seen as "more delicate" then males, hence the guy telling her she was going too fast.

I mean I get the sexism involved, it's just... like, really? What's even the point of doing that? Dude even took his eyes off the road to do that, could have crashed and gotten seriously injured.

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#114915: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:12:51 PM

[up][up][up]Meh, I find villian was just a overated mook, impresive but that it.

And it let a woman to actually do something in than the xavier-erick misery complex between the two.

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#114916: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:17:30 PM

[up]In that case just give her the Brotherhood. Until the post credits reveal with her out of commission, the group’s been commandeered by a certain Master of Magnet.

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#114917: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:23:59 PM

> I prefer it because as venezuelan, seen a hero named chavez would annoy me over and over and over and over.

Its OK we'll name the hero Hugo

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 23rd 2020 at 9:26:24 AM

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#114918: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:26:05 PM

Given her USA iconography I think it's more likely her name's influenced by Cesar Chavez.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#114919: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:26:07 PM

[up][up][up][up] Better than the spotlight-stealing hero who was only written that way to take advantage of Jennifer Lawrence’s then star power & then got fucking fridged in Dark Phoenix for more Charles & Erik man-pain.

Romijan’s character doesn’t actively detract from the films while Lawrence’s did.

Plus Romijan can actually put on the make-up.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:27:21 AM

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#114920: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:29:05 PM

The makeup was a weird ass decision to start with

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#114921: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:30:56 PM

[up]They wanted something more...alien than a blue woman. Then Jennifer Lawrence decided she didn’t like having to put the stuff on (I believe it triggered allergic reactions).

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#114922: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:31:23 PM

[up][up][up]Because she barely does something in the film, she is just a mute villian who barely does something, you cant detract for something you barely interact anyway.

Edited by unknowing on Jan 23rd 2020 at 5:32:07 AM

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#114923: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:32:52 PM

Felt very fetishy and fanservicey to me

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#114924: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:33:03 PM

[up][up] She’s Magneto’s Dragon.

She’s his most competent & longest-lasting soldier across all 3 films. That’s not not doing anything.

[up] They didn’t have to make her naked that’s for sure.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:33:32 AM

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#114925: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:35:35 PM

[up]She get disposed nearly half way on film three and magneto can even bother to feel pithy on her, I kinda expect mysthique to do more than just be magneto silent goon.

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