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So, I'm watching Far From Home again, and while it feels like something that was probably mentioned back when the movie first came out, I finally remembered that the thing that makes Beck such a threat in this movie was also introduced in the same film as Peter.
How far back do you think they planned this? Especially since the thing with Sony lending out Spidey happened kinda while Civil War was a thing...I think. It's hard to remember.
One Strip! One Strip!I don't think it was planned that far ahead. They probably needed a way to explain Mysterio's illusions and the BARF technology gave them an easy way to integrate that into the story.
It saves time explaining on where Beck got his tech, and it ties into the greater MCU. It's just the creative team using the resources already available to them.
I also wish that GiAnt-Man got to punt someone but growing really big and punching a space snake is pretty great
Forever liveblogging the AvengersTheoretically yes, though it depends how strong/angry Hulk was when he did it. IIRC Abomination has a higher Base level of strength but Hulk has a higher peak once he's grumpy enough.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."Abomination might be a better fighter than Hulk.
I mean, he's trained military, and even if he got outpoured, he'd have the brains to use that skill...in theory.
In practice, he probably just fights like a thug most of the time due the obvious power high from his transformation.
One Strip! One Strip!Abomination has had one fight with the Hulk, which he lost. That's only one data point, so it's not enough to conclusively say that the Hulk is a superior fighter to Abomination. But it's not exactly compelling evidence of Abomination being a superior fighter to Hulk.
That said, I do hope we see Abomination again in She-Hulk's show. See, the thing is, he's in cryostasis. That was the last we heard of him. He's not even in prison; S.H.I.E.L.D. made him into Sealed Evil in a Can. That's not a resolution.
The Cinemasins guy said something once that I now think of whenever I think of situations like this: just once, I want to see the guys sealing away the evil going, "And, done! You're the FUTURE'S problem now, asshole!"
Because that's what Abomination is. You can't just keep the guy frozen forever. Logistically speaking, if he doesn't get free tomorrow, then he'll do it in a week, or a month, or a year, or a thousand years from now. By sheer probability, so long as he exists, some day he'll wake up. And he ain't gettin' any younger in that ice.
Ask Steve Rogers. He can testify to this. "Frozen in ice" is not a solution. It's a bid for time, with no clear idea of what they're actually planning on doing with the time that cryostasis affords them. And it's especially not a solution when the people in charge of the iceberg are branded terrorists and forcibly disbanded a few years later.
It was a weird writing decision to say that Blonsky's in cryostasis, rather than just say that S.H.I.E.L.D. has a super-prison. If I were writing it, I'd have said that Blonsky's not in cryo and, instead, that the Hulk Prison cell from Avengers 1 was based on the cell they're using to contain him. That closes out the character. He's alive, so he can be brought back if a writer wants to, but if nobody ever brings him back, we can just assume he lived out the rest of his days in his Hulk Cell.
But they established cryo, which means at some point he has to be let out of cryo so that an actual resolution can be delivered.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 19th 2020 at 6:08:11 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Cull also didn't have his weapon when he fought Hulk in Wakanda, and to be honest, he got far more use out of his weapon than Proxima did. I'd say he had the second best showing of the Black Order, after Ebony "Voldemort" Maw.
Mr Sunday Movies has a good breakdown of the Sony/Marvel deal's history. I've also really enjoyed the way he breaks down movies, trailers, speculation, and more, for years.
Patrick Stewart reveals he had some talks with Kevin Feige a few months back...
In theory, Stewart would've been up for being Xavier in the MCU, but since Logan was a send-off for him as much as it was for Hugh Jackman, it's way less likely to happen...
Speaking of Logan, I wonder if Marvel is waiting on Dafne Keen to be of age to introduce her as MCU!X-23... Probably not, but it's a thought.
Too bad. I really love Patrick Stewart, would have loved to see him in the MCU (as Xavier or anybody else). I'd totally like to see Dafne Keen again too.
I really do wonder how they will integrate the X-Men into the MCU. Whether it will be on the line of "hey look, there were these mutants running around since half a century, but so far nobody had ever heard about them because they are that good at hiding", or will they get a brand new origin story (for instance, that Thanos destroying the stones released some kind of energy that made mutations possible, or that people are evolving to adapt to the age of superheroes, or even that the Krees made some experiments on humans a long time ago like the Inhumans in Agents of SHIELD). Unless they go the Spiderman route and consider that the Fox X-Men are either canon, or that everybody in the audience already knows about them and they don't need an origin story (but then there is the Maskerade issue).
Edited by C105 on Jan 20th 2020 at 3:26:14 PM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.Well, we know Marvel Studios isn't wasting time planting the seeds for the mutants.
We may not be seeing them in The Falcon & the Winter Soldier, but Madripoor is a big part of mutant lore.
Plus, the Eternals are (at least partly) the reason why mutants are a thing and we're due for a movie on them later this year, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get mutant foreshadowing there.
