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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
That tracks with what the rumors said. The Sony movies will acknowledge the MCU Spider-Man characters but the MCU won't acknowledge the Sony Spider-Man characters.
This song needs more love.Yep. What Amy Pascal wanted from the beginning of this partnership was to be allowed to carve out her own B-canon niche, like the Netflix shows or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It's what she said Venom was going to be, before Kevin Feige jumped in and was like, "Ahahahaha nope, nice try, but keep your shit away from my MCU."
Pascal thought the deal was that Marvel makes Spider-Man MCU movies, Sony makes Spider-Man Sony movies, and they're connected through Tom Holland even if Marvel never references Sony's stuff. Feige, meanwhile, thought the deal was that Marvel makes Spider-Man MCU movies and Sony collects the profits for those movies but doesn't lay one finger on Tom Holland's Spider-Man or associated stuff. And he publicly contradicted Pascal on that point.
I think this bodes well for the future of MCU Spider-Man. I've long been of the belief that the reason the post-Far From Home negotiations broke down was because of bad blood caused by that disconnect. Sony wanted to take their Spider-ball and go home because Marvel told them they can't actually be a part of the MCU; Marvel just wants their character.
Since Pascal's now getting to have her B-canon slot she wanted, I think that will make Sony much more willing to keeping Spider-Man in the MCU in the long term. As long as Sony feels that a) they can make money on Spidey movies just fine without Tom, b) Tom's making profitable Spider-Man movies with Marvel, and c) their non-Tom Spidey movies are still a welcome part of the joint venture, then they have no reason to try and leave.
It's lunchroom politics. Think of Sony as the weird kid who kinda smells but has a cool Xbox. Marvel's the popular kid that wants to come over to Sony's house and play his Xbox. Marvel might not like Sony overmuch because Sony's weird and smelly. But. Like. If Sony comes up to Marvel in the lunchroom and tries to sit with him and Marvel goes, "Get out of here, you stupid loser!" to avoid losing face in front of his friends, then Marvel doesn't get to play with Sony's Xbox anymore.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 13th 2020 at 11:32:25 AM
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It's looking like it. Up to now, we got more than six big-time Spider-Man enemies/rivals:
- Vulture
- Shocker
- Scorpion
- Prowler
- Venom
- Mysterio
- Morbius
Yeah, Venom and Morbius were never Sinister Six members, but there it is.
And the third MCU Spider-Man might have Kraven and/or Chameleon, so there's that too.
Prowler and Scorpion haven't been properly established yet but I'm sure a third spidey movie will do that.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I dunno. I liked Rhino in Amazing 2.
He makes a good “establishment” villain, because he’s otherwise not especially interesting. Having him be there solely in a “the is the bookends baddie that Spider-Man confronts to show that he’s back” is about the best you’re going to get with him.
There were a lot of things Amazing 2 screwed up in its climax and it’s ending, but imo the way they treated Rhino was not one of them.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 13th 2020 at 2:02:54 AM
I mean, it’s just a mech suit, and not an especially versatile one at that - there’s only so much you can get out of it. Rhino has the same problem Hulk does in that he’s less interesting in action than you would expect.
Spider-Man (and Iron Man, since MCU Spidey might as well just inherit his villains at this point) has loads of other “mech suit” villains who can do more in a fight and contribute more on a character level than Rhino.
I understand wanting to see him, but I don’t really get the “we NEED to see it / Rhino is due” angle.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 13th 2020 at 2:04:10 AM
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My counterargument: it look like a fucking cool mecha suit and a animal one to that, is hard to see that with so many human suit one.
Im not expecting the battle of the century but a good trashing in part of spiderman was really need it.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"So far, the MCU Spidey movies have set up Prowler, Chameleon, and Scorpion, as well as Spidey being outed and framed for murder by JJJ. I will eat my hat if the next MCU Spidey movie isn't about JJJ creating Scorpion as a new hero to take down Spider-Man, and Peter has to team up with Prowler to defeat him. Maybe throw in Chameleon as a sidekick to Scorpion.

Kevin Feige said when the show was announced that it would have flashbacks exploring his time as the edgy Ronin.
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