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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Ant-Man is a different story; Edgar Wright had worked on it for years and, finally, gave it up when he couldn't fit it in with what Feige and the Marvel producers wanted.
I don't know how long Derrickson has been working on Doctor Strange 2 or what exactly the creative differences were, but the split was amicable enough that he's staying as an EP.
Add to the Antman mess it was Perlmutter and the Creative Committee that was the problem there, those where the guys Wright was butting heads with. It was one of the early signs that led to Feige taking the movies to Disney and out of Perlmutter's hands.
Feige didn't have full control over everything until post Civil War.
I recall Perlmutter was the one who was against giving Black Panther and Captain Marvel their own movies. I think he still had a say on Civil War before he was kicked upstairs, so we may have eventually gotten a film with T'Challa. But I think a lot of the more diverse films in the works for Phase Four probably wouldn't have happened under his watch.
Also the Inhumans were his personal pet project, so we would've gotten a big-budget film with them in the lead up to Infinity War.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jan 10th 2020 at 4:53:49 AM
New Mutants is a part of the MCU or the lady writing this Disney-paid newsletter was misinformed.
Seems likely, but who knows, maybe they will add a stinger hinting at a MCU connection like they did in Hulk. Then again, I'd be surprised if the mutants were introduced in such a back-handed way.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.We only got Captain Marvel and Black Panther green lit because Feige agreed to put Inhumans on the slate. Once he got out from under Perlmutter the project was dropped due to not having the right place for them or the right team.
Ike wasn't having that and bull rushed the IMAX 'film' pilot and series into production on the cheap. And we saw how that ended.
I heard rumors (rumors mind you) that the original plan was for the Soul Stone to be introduced in the Inhumans film, where it'd be on Attilan. Infinity War would then feature a scene where either Thanos or the Black Order fight the Inhumans and collect the stone.
Not sure how accurate this rumor is, and it could just be pointless speculation on what could've been from a fan. But that really would've changed how a lot of moments in Infinity War would've played out.
So long as Lockjaw lives. Then yes it's worth it.
Edited by Bullman on Jan 10th 2020 at 6:41:35 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadThe main reason Inhumans is bad, from my understanding, is the terrible direction of Scott Buck and Perlmutter basically wanting an x-men counterpart for the mcu, but he didn't give it any kind of substantial time or budget to be made. I doubt if Inhumans was a movie it would be made under those conditions.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Jan 10th 2020 at 9:17:09 AM
Daisy, Lockjaw and Kamala are the only Inhumans we need...
...though Daisy isn't an Inhuman in the comics so....
One Strip! One Strip!

Still not fun to hear.
I mean Ant-Man had reshoots and turned out fine, but it’s still annoying to hear.