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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#114401: Jan 9th 2020 at 2:56:02 PM

> Danny Trejo is right there.

hes currently got his head attached to a turtle so no

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#114402: Jan 9th 2020 at 3:06:26 PM

[up][up] I doubt there can be any movie like TDK in the context of the MCU.

I mean Nolan's universe ran on (relative) realism.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#114404: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:30:32 PM

Oh dear, that's not a good sign at all. While I wasn't all that enthused about the first film for more reasons than just the bone-dry script, Derrickson seemed to genuinely want to do better.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114405: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:30:39 PM

Well, damn. This hasn't happened to Marvel in a while.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#114406: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:37:42 PM

Huh. I don't think this is a cause for concern yet, but that Tweet is kind of revealing.

I don't entirely mind a change of directors though. The first Doctor Strange (2016) movie was visually engaging, but a pretty routine for the most part. So assuming a new director has the freedom to add their own flair to things, this could be for the better. I know there are people on this thread who hated the first film, so I'm willing to wait and see where this might go. Hopefully Marvel will take their time so the story will work.

But looking at this from afar, this is reminding me of the change of directors for Thor: The Dark World. So... take that as you will.

Oddly enough, Doctor Strange is one of the few films I've seen more than once in the theaters. Kind of an odd choice for a film I thought was okay overall. tongue

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jan 9th 2020 at 7:40:59 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#114407: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:40:22 PM

One of the top responses on that tweet is Scott directly saying that he wasn't referring to Marvel Studios.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114409: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:43:38 PM

I think my heart just dropped a little, you guys... O__O

I'd suggest Taika Waititi or one of the Russos take over, but Taika's preoccupied with Love and Thunder and the Russos are still on break from Marvel period.

So I'm drawing a blank...

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#114410: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:46:17 PM

[up][up][up]Lots of people backtrack on things to avoid biting the hand that feeds them. Him tweeting that and then dropping out a month later due to "creative differences" is telling.

Edited by comicwriter on Jan 9th 2020 at 4:50:02 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#114411: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:47:44 PM

According to his most recent tweet, he's still on the film as EP, so it probably was a mutual and amicable change.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114412: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:53:53 PM

Oh, there are tons of directors I would love to see tackle a Doctor Strange movie:

  • Jennifer Kent (The Babadook)
  • Leigh Whannell (Upgrade)
  • Sophia Takal (Black Christmas)
  • Mike Flanagan (Hush, Ouiji, Haunting of Hill House)

And those are just horror directors. Flanagan, especially, since I saw some great Doctor Strange-like moments in Doctor Sleep.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 9th 2020 at 4:54:57 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#114413: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:54:34 PM

I'd suggest Guillermo del Toro but that would probably just lead to the same situation.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114415: Jan 9th 2020 at 4:57:52 PM

There is only one way, the path that leads forward.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#114416: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:10:11 PM

I'd suggest Guillermo del Toro but that would probably just lead to the same situation.

He'd also probably pass on it anyway, because he prefers to work on his original stuff these days. He only seems to do adaptations of stuff that really resonates with him, like his old Hellboy movies. Especially in the second one where he was allowed to do basically whatever he wanted.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114417: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:12:05 PM

Oh, there are tons of directors I would love to see tackle a Doctor Strange movie:

  • Jennifer Kent (The Babadook)
  • Leigh Whannell (Upgrade)
  • Sophia Takal (Black Christmas)
  • Mike Flanagan (Hush, Ouiji, Haunting of Hill House)

And those are just horror directors. Flanagan, especially, since I saw some great Doctor Strange-like moments in Doctor Sleep.

Huh. I did like how screwy the camera would get in Upgrade's fight scenes...

Wasn't the new Black Christmas considered subpar?

And as much as I love GDT, he's the kind of guy that’s rather play with his own toys.

Actually, someone suggested Matt Shakman, who also happens to be directing WandaVision.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#114418: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:14:02 PM

Didn't Guillermo del Toro and Neil Gaiman try to get a Doctor Strange film off the ground before the MCU took off?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114419: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:16:36 PM

[up] I know GDT tried to get a Hulk show out. But maybe they tried to do that thing you said? surprised

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 9th 2020 at 8:16:58 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#114420: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:28:52 PM

Black Christmas is subpar for being a very preachy PG-13 slasher movie, which is a cavalcade of bad ideas. That being said, Mike Flanagan would be perfect for this.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#114422: Jan 9th 2020 at 5:44:08 PM

Don’t you bring that energy into the world

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#114423: Jan 9th 2020 at 7:48:09 PM

Eh. If it happens, it happens.

He can't shit the bed any worse than Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World, or Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Note out of those three, I only really hate Iron Man 3, but since those other two are considered as bad or worse, I felt I'd mention them out of fairness.

At the very least, we'd get some interesting spectacle out of Bay. Maybe we'll even get lucky. He did create the most skilled version of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...

<Everyone looks at him like he's insane>

Yes. I said it. They're fucking huge, but just as stealthy as any other incarnations. They are the most skilled. This is fact.

Hell, I even kinda liked the Out of the Shadows.

Edit: Almost forgot my real reason for posting.

Watching Endgame again, and I have to wonder when Tony suspected that Strange's plan was still in motion: was it the moment he figured out time travel by pure accident, or maybe when everyone came back?

He had to have clicked in at some point since he knew to ask if this was the time line where they won.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jan 9th 2020 at 8:52:20 AM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#114424: Jan 9th 2020 at 7:55:14 PM

I sometimes feel like I am the only one who likes Ultron. Both the movie and character.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114425: Jan 9th 2020 at 7:56:59 PM

Hey I liked Ultron's character.

It's just his power level was too low.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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