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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#114351: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:20:29 AM

You could say,he's a joke among Jokers,the card dealt from the bottom of the deck

-badum tish-

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#114352: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:23:27 AM

Zach Galifianakis was adorable and hilarious as Lego!Joker, don't forget.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#114353: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:26:49 AM

What about Kevin Michael Richardson's Joker?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#114354: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:34:08 AM

I found that Joker to be fairly scrappy to be honest,but their Poison Ivy is probably the best version of the character I've seen alongside the other cartoon version

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114355: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:36:42 AM

Kevin's Joker was the laughing monkey warrior since unlike most Jokers he can take Batmab one on one & that made him very distinct.

He also has the most genuinly loving relationship with Harley.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 8th 2020 at 7:39:13 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#114356: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:44:08 AM

I liked Kevin Michael Richardson's Joker. I think he's very underrated.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#114357: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:44:41 AM

> He also has the most genuinly loving relationship with Harley.

In all likelyhood the abusive relationship aspect that they previously established was probably deemed not kid friendly

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114358: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:52:57 AM

He seems to have an actual crush on her there, clearly being attracted to her & even willing to give her a diamond gift than for no other reason than just cause. And when Harley wanted to take revenge on the people who wronged her, he’s like “Hell yeah sure, whatever you want.”

Hell Joker actually had a second ejector seat that time. That says everything.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 8th 2020 at 7:56:02 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#114359: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:08:02 AM

So that would make Cameron Monaghan Joker's the cousin nobody remembers?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114360: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:11:58 AM

The Batman's Joker's relationship with Harley was interesting. Unlike other continuities, where Joker may have some feelings for her, but he's a demented abusive psychotic maniac so those simply come out as violent possessiveness and abusive behavior, The Batman's Joker legit doted on and was affectionate to Harley, but ultimately just saw her as entertainment and couldn't have given less of a shit about her.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114361: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:12:30 AM

Monaghan's Joker is the one that wants to be an edgelord, but then sees Leto's Joker and goes, "Whoa, man, too much, too much."

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114362: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:18:24 AM

Ah wait I found this little clip.

That giggle is heart-melting.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114363: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:39:00 AM

Moving things back to Morbius...

The trailer's been rated PG and had a runtime of 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

We should be seeing this trailer pop up online when Bad Boys for Life gets closer to release.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#114364: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:45:09 AM

Morbius is not part of the MCU. Why do we care about him again?

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#114365: Jan 8th 2020 at 8:53:27 AM

Because something something Sony wants their films to join the MCU or whatever.

I mean, we already have a thread for Sony's Marvel films, so we should probably move the Morbius discussion over there.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114366: Jan 8th 2020 at 9:34:31 AM

That thread's kinda inactive, but whatever...tongue

EDIT: Here you go.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 8th 2020 at 12:45:04 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#114367: Jan 8th 2020 at 5:54:32 PM

I will said that for a intersting take of joker, I refer to the fan blog series the joker blogs, were is there the joker who show a interest of harley and she is a no nonsense doctor who thinks can crack joker "method" so to speak.

Is intersting because it imples that harley have actually issues and the joker is tapping those and fixing one problem I always have with harley and it is "what kind of charm the joker have she see in them?"

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#114368: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:13:24 PM

I always found Ledger's Joker overrated. Still good but not my favorite. He's my second favorite though. Cameron Monaghan, Jack Nicholson, and Joaquin Phoenix's were good but had some stuff holding them back. Hamill is my favorite Joker. I have never seen Richardson. I also liked Zach Galifianakis, Jeff Bennett and John DiMaggio in the role.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 8th 2020 at 8:22:58 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114369: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:14:58 PM

Why say overrated? Why not just say you don't like him as much compared to others?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#114370: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:16:01 PM

I do like him. He's my second favorite. Just not my favorite. I just get tired of him being first, so I said overrated. I guess that is confusing and I could have phrased better.

Edit: I added him being second favorite to the original post.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 8th 2020 at 8:24:02 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#114371: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:26:06 PM

I just had the bizarre thought of what a Nolan-verse Harley Quinn would be like.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114372: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:33:31 PM

The Joker Blogs attempted to make one (that series posed itself as an "and then what" story that took place soon after The Dark Knight).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 8th 2020 at 6:35:48 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#114373: Jan 8th 2020 at 6:37:06 PM

I liked The Joker Blogs. They had my favorite take on their relationship. Still toxic, but in a different way.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#114374: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:42:02 PM

I am somewhat curious about Morbius but really am not a fan of Jared Leto. The only thing that would bring me around was if all of those stories of assholish behavior during ''Suicide Squad' were made up by the producers to drum up publicity.

I do hope though that Morbius, as well as Blade, are comparably Lighter and Softer (ditto Moon Knight, who might have some overlap with at least the latter). Not really a horror person, and I like the idea of having an MCU applying the same kind of tone (and as well-done) to a "monster mash" plotline as they have to space opera.

RE the Joker, I do like Ledger's Joker in terms of how the movie really emphasizes (and does well) the idea of the Joker as someone who has Chaotic Evil plans but carries them out in quite intelligent and meticulous ways.

I don't think anyone can really beat Hamil's version though for most effectively portraying the Joker as both funny and horrendously evil.

Honestly, though I'd really like to see an alt-Joker (or Joker expy) that's a Harmless Villain reminiscent of Cesar Romero that is horrified by the current Joker's behavior and becomes a good guy. If I could I'd write it myself. I like that kind of thing of "villain turned hero" (i.e. Megamind, Despicable Me and Nimona).

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#114375: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:55:33 PM

The closest to that is the British Joker (real name Jarvis Poker, yes really) who copies the whole shtick except that his jokes are of the entirely non-lethal variety. He literally does the whole costume thing and persona to play actual practical jokes on people. He gets on well with the Knight, who is basically British Batman.

The real Joker apparently doesn't like him very much.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."

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