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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#114276: Jan 5th 2020 at 6:43:34 PM

Thing with the Mandarin's ten rings powers is, half of them boil down to "shoot destructive blast of energy at you".

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#114277: Jan 5th 2020 at 6:55:55 PM

I have a feeling they won't adapt all the powers of his ten rings. It may just be a set of nifty finger lasers.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#114278: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:01:22 PM

But wouldn't he just be a normal dude with Iron Man's gauntlets?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#114279: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:13:56 PM

[up][up][up]The one that basically has the power of turning off the lights in your room is a pretty cool one though.

Edited by comicwriter on Jan 5th 2020 at 7:14:07 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114280: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:17:32 PM

Not even just one. Daredevil's been with Elektra and Typhoid Mary.
Not MCU Daredevil, MCU Daredevil has only been with Elektra.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114281: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:19:33 PM

Or he could have like one button that does fifty different things, like Space Ghost.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#114282: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:33:57 PM

I guess they will nerf the power of the 10 rings, so that Sang Chin can beat Mandarin.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#114283: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:36:37 PM

But wouldn't he just be a normal dude with Iron Man's gauntlets?

Well, on top of presumably having competent martial arts skills, yes. Would add an interesting dynamic to fighting Shang-Chi, one of them having a powerful ranged attack while the other is a close-range fighter.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#114284: Jan 5th 2020 at 7:39:43 PM

Shang Chi could teach Peter martial arts.

Even in one scene they could show Shang Chi easily beating Peter.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jan 5th 2020 at 7:40:26 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#114285: Jan 5th 2020 at 10:16:45 PM

<Later after hooking up with Black Cat>

Peter: Matt, I am so, so sorry.

In fairness, Black Cat tends to be a lot less of a supervillain than Elektra. She even gets along well with some of Peter's friends (sometimes). Matt can't say the same about Elektra.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#114286: Jan 6th 2020 at 4:28:09 AM

Matt: No Elektra! Don't kill that ninja...wait you seem attractive right now after killing some dude let's kiss. *Touches lips with her blood stained face*

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#114287: Jan 6th 2020 at 6:12:40 AM

Obviously we need to bring in Matt because we're running out of people pissed at Tony Stark. How else are we going to have new Spider Man villains?

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#114288: Jan 6th 2020 at 6:56:46 AM

I mean. It's not like there's some shortage of available villains. Marvel just bought Fox!

Spidey can fight Magneto. Problem solved.

EDIT: I'm joking, of course. But actually, I've been wanting Spider-Man v. Magneto for a long time over on the comics side. Spidey often takes on entire X-Men teams at once, as does Magneto, so I've been itching to see these two brilliant minds with phenomenal powersets and a wealth of experience duke it out for years.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 6th 2020 at 7:59:44 AM

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#114289: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:00:14 AM

Magneto: "Tony Stark called me a mutie once. Now I'm going to destroy every piece of technology that came from Stark Industries!"

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#114290: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:01:23 AM

I feel like Magneto would wreck MCU Spidey at first due to the Iron Man stuff until he downgrades himself to normal cloth, so sort of like Homecoming but on a larger scale.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Jan 6th 2020 at 10:03:48 AM

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#114291: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:09:00 AM

That could be cool.

I think the funniest thing about the Netflix Punisher show is that in both seasons, Frank is basically a Fairy Godmother who suddenly shows up in some down-on-their-luck innocent person's life and magically fixes all their woes.
This is like the very first thing I've heard about The Punisher that makes me interested in watching it (I like Berenthal, I've just never cared about Frank Castle as a character concept).

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#114292: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:36:41 AM

It's kinda funny to me how in 2017 the MCU gave us (in my opinion) three of the best movies in the franchise (if not in the entire genre) yet the TV/Netflix side wrought the shitfires that were Iron Fist season 1 and Inhumans, plus the supposedly better but still disappointing Defenders. At least we got Runaways and The Punisher, but otherwise that uh, wasn't that division's finest hour.

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Disasturbator
#114293: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:55:41 AM

I want the inhumans to appear in the MCU only to suddenly get killed off,except the doggy,Lock Jaw is cool

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#114294: Jan 6th 2020 at 7:56:17 AM

Manipulating the molecular structure of matter (as one of the Ten Rings powers) seems like something that would be incredibly powerful if used effectively.

Like, on an insta-kill level. Hey, I just transmuted your arm into air. Hey, I just transmuted your heart into air. Plus giving virtually unlimited resources - you’ve basically got a Star Trek replicator.

And noting that electromagnetic powers can be used to manipulate light (and other forms of electromagnetic radiation) is one of my favourite things. Invisibility, yep. Illusions, yep. Give people cancer, yep. (Magneto is pulling all his punches.) Lightning bolts, yep. Infrared or ultraviolet vision (or, well, sensory abilities, if not vision), yep.

As an enemy for a guy with super-martial-arts, this would seem seriously overpowered, except that superpowered characters never use the most creative and versatile powers to their full potential.

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#114295: Jan 6th 2020 at 8:01:36 AM

Depends on how it fires.

If it can just manipulate any matter at any time, it's pretty hard to top. That's Reality Gem levels of unbeatable - though the Reality Gem itself did get severely nerfed in the MCU. MCU Reality Gem is basically just illusion magic and has no permanent effect of any kind (boy, would the egg have been on Malekith's face if he actually pulled off his scheme).

But if it has to shoot a beam or projectile of some kind, then it can be dodged. And that would make it no different than any other death ray in terms of usefulness in combat.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 6th 2020 at 9:02:32 AM

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#114296: Jan 6th 2020 at 8:04:46 AM

The Reality Gem is what Thanos used to turn bullets (or whatever) into bubbles to prevrnt Quill from killing Gamora and Gamora from killing herself. So it goes beyond just illusions.

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#114297: Jan 6th 2020 at 8:58:07 AM

Do we have any indication if Mordo is going to be in Doctor Strange 2? If he does return for that film, will he have an important role or will he be like Crossbones from Civil War serving as the villain for the beginning fight? I don’t see any reason for Ejiofor not return.

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#114298: Jan 6th 2020 at 8:58:38 AM

The two examples the Wikia gives for how Mandarin uses that ring is turning the air into a poisonous gas and turning a block of air solid as concrete. Either Mandarin isn't very creative with how to use that specific power, or the ring itself is very limited on what it can do.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#114299: Jan 6th 2020 at 10:06:39 AM

If he does return for that film, will he have an important role or will he be like Crossbones from Civil War serving as the villain for the beginning fight?

That sounds like something you'd have to ask the people making the film.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#114300: Jan 6th 2020 at 11:17:14 AM

Unlimited manipulation of molecular structure is how you get highest-tier reality warpers. Just look at Owen Reece.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jan 6th 2020 at 2:17:33 PM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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