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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114076: Dec 31st 2019 at 12:43:18 PM

[up][up]Yeah but I trust Marvel more, especially since Moon Knight is canonically a few cans short of a six pack.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114077: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:05:45 PM

Moon Knight has multiple personalities, he isn't crazy. He also isn't stupid. Him thinking that Dracula owes him money could go one of two ways:

  • In the best interpretation, Dracula actually does owe him money, but then the question is why would Marc Spector (presumably hunter of vampires) lend Dracula money?
  • In the worst interpretation, Marc Spector is just Deadpool-lite and just says funny memes for the shits and giggles and this is that. Which is stupid, because he isn't Deadpool-lite, he's Batman with serious psychological issues.

But, again, he isn't crazy. Hell, he doesn't even have traditional DID like we would normally think of it. His brain was literally colonized by Khonshu. As his psychologist stated, "You don't simply 'catch' DID simply by pretending to be other people for a while... You're not insane. Your brain has been colonized by an ancient consciousness from beyond space-time. Smile."

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#114078: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:12:40 PM

Real question is: why he think dracula is a goddamn nerd?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#114079: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:15:04 PM

[up][up]Maybe he ows him money from a job. Let's remember that Moon Knight originally started as a mercenary, and in his first appearance he was hired to hunt down Wereeoof by Night. Maybe in the MCU Dracula hired Marc to finish Russell once and for all, since they're natural enemies.

Imagine something similar like this happening.

Also, no one is gonna mention that the production name is the name of Marc's actual production company from that time he was a tv producer?

Edited by Akirakan on Dec 31st 2019 at 4:16:08 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114080: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:16:02 PM

Real question is: why he think dracula is a goddamn nerd?

Well, he does dress like a larper, collect things, and is averse to natural sunlight.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 31st 2019 at 1:18:20 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114081: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:18:54 PM

Also, no one is gonna mention that the production name is the name of Marc's actual production company from that time he was a tv producer?
I mean, I suspect that they are going to have his millionaire identity — Steven Grant — to be a TV producer like he was in Lemire's run and be based out of Hollywood or LA. That's actually what my own Moon Knight pitch had it.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#114082: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:30:48 PM

Considering how vague it is what Spectorcorps does (I don't think we've ever seen what it does beyond MK's gear), going for the movie producer angle might be for the best. At the same time, you avoid comparisons to Batman and Diaz Enterprises.

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#114083: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:34:27 PM

Me, I'm just wondering if "Dracula" is going to one of Marc's personality-hallucination-identity-things.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114084: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:39:36 PM

Also, no one is gonna mention that the production name is the name of Marc's actual production company from that time he was a tv producer?

The articles mentioning the production title brought this up.

Once upon a time, Marc Spector scored a huge load of money to upgrade his armor and used said money to found a company called Spectorcorp. And yes, at one point, Marc became a TV producer and produced a show called "The Legend of Khonshu".

Not sure how all that worked out, but hooray mythology gags!

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#114085: Dec 31st 2019 at 1:53:37 PM

Me, I'm just wondering if "Dracula" is going to one of Marc's personality-hallucination-identity-things.
Marc generally has four "personalities," if you can call them that: the original (Marc Spector), the millionaire playboy (Steven Grant), the hack (Jake Lockley), and, well, Moon Knight himself. (Yes, Moon Knight is a separate personality, sometimes even dressing in a three-piece white suit and going by "Mr. Knight.") During Bendis's run, three of those personalities were switched to Captain America, Spider-Man, and Wolverine. And according to Warren Ellis's first issue, his personalities represent the three aspects of Khonshu: Defender, Pathfinder, and Protector of overnight travelers, and his hidden fourth aspect, the One Who Lives in Hearts.

Also, sometimes Khonshu himself is depicted as his fourth personality.

Also, apparently Werewolf by Night will also be appearing in the show. This makes much more sense, since Moon Knight first appeared in an issue of Werewolf by Night.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 31st 2019 at 1:59:11 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#114086: Dec 31st 2019 at 2:09:06 PM

That name is very clunky, so I hope they change it to just Werewolf or mock it in traditional MCU snark fashion.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#114088: Dec 31st 2019 at 2:55:33 PM

Moonlight is just sunlight, it's reasonable. tongue

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#114089: Dec 31st 2019 at 3:31:57 PM

How about..Night Wolf?

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#114090: Dec 31st 2019 at 3:37:38 PM

[up]then ed boon will send a cease and desist lettertongue

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#114091: Dec 31st 2019 at 4:24:20 PM

he isn't Deadpool-lite, he's Batman with serious psychological issues.

Meanwhile Batman is also Batman with serious psychological issues.cool

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#114092: Dec 31st 2019 at 4:34:38 PM

More like actually diagnosed Batman, because they don't go deeper than "messed up" with the Dark Knight.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#114093: Dec 31st 2019 at 5:06:00 PM

[up] Funnily enough, a recent Batman story really did delve into the age-old question of "what if Batman really was a nutcase?"

EDIT: Wait, not really. Disregard what I just typed. tongue

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 31st 2019 at 8:22:01 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#114094: Dec 31st 2019 at 5:22:17 PM

> ed boon

Literally who?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#114095: Dec 31st 2019 at 5:51:26 PM

[up]Guy who made Mortal Kombat. Which is also owned by Warner.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#114096: Dec 31st 2019 at 6:53:22 PM

Can I be honest with you guys?

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I preferred what they what they did with Hawkeye in Age of Ultron to Endgame. I found that stuff overhyped and cliche. I prefer the take that he's the one Avenger with everything figured out vs moody loner guy. I feel like I am alone on this.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 31st 2019 at 9:11:56 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#114097: Dec 31st 2019 at 6:56:22 PM

I think most people weren't happy with Hawkeye in Endgame

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#114098: Dec 31st 2019 at 7:02:23 PM

[up][up]I haven't even watched Avengers: Endgame and I agree with you.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#114099: Dec 31st 2019 at 7:12:24 PM

Are people ever happy with Hawkeye?

Honest question.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#114100: Dec 31st 2019 at 7:13:05 PM

Movie Hawkeye no. Comics Hawkeye, yes, in many different incarnations.


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