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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113976: Dec 28th 2019 at 2:58:06 PM

Someone took another picture of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier filming.

The wall has what looks like a crescent moon, a star, and a lion's head. Those familiar with the countries in the Marvel Universe will know that a crescent moon, star, and lion's head serves as the symbols of the flag of Madripoor. What's Madripoor? The Principality of Madripoor is an island that's featured prominently in X-Men comics and is a big part of Wolverine's history.

They're planting seeds for the mutants, baby!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 28th 2019 at 10:00:44 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#113977: Dec 28th 2019 at 6:36:48 PM

About Mads, the weird thing about him is that when he's a villain in TV shows (hello, Hannibal Lecter) or video games (hi, Cliff from Death Stranding), he's a big highlight. When he's a villain in movies, he doesn't do as well.

The legend has returned.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113978: Dec 28th 2019 at 7:02:21 PM

[up][up] Madripoor? Hell yes! Bring in Tyger Tiger, too, please! Hell, they could even bring in Roughouse and Bloodscream, although that would require a bit more explanation.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 28th 2019 at 7:53:10 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113979: Dec 28th 2019 at 7:31:04 PM

[up]The Tyger Tiger page is broken. Try this one. Anyhoo, was anyone expecting them to plant seeds for the Fox stuff this soon? They were like "oh it's going to be a ways before we get into all those guys we just got," and next thing we know, we're getting S.W.O.R.D., rumors about Doomstadt, Deadpool 3, and now Madripoor. Wonder what happened...

Speaking of S.W.O.R.D., don't we have a page for that one at all?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113980: Dec 28th 2019 at 7:54:10 PM

[up] Your link is broken, too, but I fixed mine, so it's alright. For some reason, when you copy and paste, it literally replaces "á" with the html code and messes with the URL, so you have to copy and paste just the "á" in there to make it work right.

As for the rest this might not even be seeds for the X-Men stuff, since Madripoor has been a part of the rest of the Marvel universe for a while, too. It's just that it's most closely associated with the X-Men and Wolverine in particular.

In any case I totally didn't expect them to wait with seeding mutants into the shows, because that doesn't really take much time. It's making the actual X-Men stuff that will take time and effort.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 28th 2019 at 7:56:19 AM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113981: Dec 28th 2019 at 8:00:57 PM

[up] The deal was completed back in March, so I don't think it's too surprising at this stage. Plenty of time for elements of the former Fox properties to be written into projects that hadn't even started filming at that point.

Especially in this case where they may be simply establishing Madripoor as a place that exists without actually doing anything with Wolverine or the mutants.

I'm guessing that aside from some basic groundwork like this, mutants aren't really going to show up in any meaningful way until we get a lot closer to the MCU X-Men movie

Edited by Falrinn on Dec 28th 2019 at 8:01:49 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#113982: Dec 28th 2019 at 8:33:19 PM

I assume we’ll just get the occasional mutant character here and there, before snowballing into something bigger.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#113983: Dec 28th 2019 at 8:47:11 PM

Just like the actual marvel universe.

One Strip! One Strip!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113984: Dec 28th 2019 at 8:51:50 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure the X-Men showed up first before other mutants in the 616 universe. Unless you are speaking in Watsonian terms, in which case: yes.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 28th 2019 at 8:52:11 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#113986: Dec 29th 2019 at 5:08:47 PM

Whoever they picked, I hope the best for her. Lord knows the internet's not a welcoming space for WOC cast in popular franchises.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#113987: Dec 29th 2019 at 5:30:26 PM

If the internet has a problem, slap its stupid face.

It's as simple as that.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#113988: Dec 29th 2019 at 5:31:24 PM

the internet has no face but,it has a buttface

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#113989: Dec 29th 2019 at 5:33:14 PM

Then kick that buttface.

Either way, you're hitting something that will hurt, and something that probably deserves it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#113990: Dec 29th 2019 at 5:35:07 PM

It is a buttface with no feelings,attacking it is a futile action

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#113991: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:17:51 PM

Yep. Don't feed the trolls. It only makes them stronger. Instead, ignore them completely. Nothing makes trolls happier than having another site—or worst of all, mainstream media—complain about them.

Maybe if the big sites like Reddit had some halfway decent moderation, it would be different, but they don't.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#113992: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:21:10 PM

It is said that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113993: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:21:13 PM

If the internet has a problem, slap its stupid face.

the internet has no face, but it has a buttface

Then kick that buttface.

Greatest. Conversation. Ever. [awesome]

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#113994: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:22:15 PM

[up][up][up]I feel the advice of "just ignore trolls" is not one that has much usefulness in this day and age.

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 29th 2019 at 6:23:01 AM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#113995: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:24:59 PM

Yeah, but not like we can find all of them and kidnap them to give them the Ludovico treatment, really.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#113996: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:28:44 PM

Well we could always send them viruses but I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#113997: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:42:16 PM

Yeah, it's pretty illegal. And once again I remind people that we're not supposed to encourage illegal activities here.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#113998: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:47:12 PM

Still, ignoring them when they are doing real damage is not possible, and logic and decency just don't work with that kind of people.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#113999: Dec 29th 2019 at 6:54:58 PM

All I can do is offer joke Catharthis suggestions.

But I will bring up two men who were many years ahead of their time in terms of what to do about these types:

Never thought I'd say this, but Jay and Silent Bob are geniuses.

....Unfortunately, these assholes would probably do the same thing to a lot of innocent people, so even this idea wouldn't work.sad

One Strip! One Strip!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#114000: Dec 29th 2019 at 9:34:06 PM

The deal was completed back in March, so I don't think it's too surprising at this stage. Plenty of time for elements of the former Fox properties to be written into projects that hadn't even started filming at that point.

Especially since it's not like the X-Men themselves would be showing up. Miki Ishikawa from The Terror was cast in an unknown recurring role recently; perhaps she's playing Tyger Tiger.

Edited by comicwriter on Dec 29th 2019 at 9:34:24 AM


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