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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#113851: Dec 19th 2019 at 8:40:22 AM

There's two of them. One is a rubber sleeve for regular scenes, but they had an additional more detailed one with the dots for closeups and things like when he was recalibrating the plates of his arm.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#113853: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:47:35 AM

I shouldn't be surprised but I am.

Aha, googled it. Wakanda was a fake entry for system testing purposes. Someone forgot to remove it before the system went live.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 19th 2019 at 11:50:10 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#113855: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:57:07 AM

That’s what they want you to think

Clearly Wakanda is really real

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Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#113856: Dec 19th 2019 at 11:08:52 AM

Still disappointed no one did the "Wakanda Challenge" on Trump...

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#113857: Dec 19th 2019 at 6:53:10 PM

Now, while people get mad at batman with the bad god stuff, sometimes I do feel fan and writern seen to be damn set in that superman can do whatever it wants like "he can out run a black hole!, he can survive a super nova, he can hear from a galaxy away!" is seen that people get mad if they dont bload him with power.

And wakanda is listed as trade parner? what is wrong with it? is just a peacefull and poor country, nothing surprising at allevil grin

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#113858: Dec 21st 2019 at 2:46:40 AM

You may or may not agree with his opinions on Thanos but I realize that he does have some salient points on the character that I feel that should be discussed.

"Mai waifu."
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#113859: Dec 21st 2019 at 3:17:39 AM

Haven't watched but I can definitely agree there's a lot wrong with Thanos in terms of how the narrative treats him (particularly in proportion to the other characters; I'm looking at you, Vormir scene) and his motives/methods. I'm tempted to say he might be the most overrated character in the franchise.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#113860: Dec 21st 2019 at 9:09:47 AM

Never say overrated. That helps no one.

Say overhyped if you have to.

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#113862: Dec 21st 2019 at 9:50:24 AM

Well Radcliffe is Jewish in ancestry just like Marc Spector (a.k.a the Moon Knight) so that's a good start.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113863: Dec 21st 2019 at 10:07:52 AM

Interesting. I would never have thought of him for Marc, but it could work. But it's also weird, as he's already super famous for a previous role.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#113864: Dec 21st 2019 at 10:09:25 AM

That looks like an incredible idea.

The legend has returned.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#113865: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:00:04 PM

Can anyone give a resume of who moon knight is?.

And with thanos, I will said best part of him is personality and the acting compared with waht kind of chararter he is.

I mean thanos is a space conqueror and so far almost all of them are imposible to take it seriously, ether they are bland like stphenwolf, or hammy like ronan or hela, so far only zod get gravitas and that is more for having somewhat of a semi-kinda-sorta sympathic motivation of it.

Meanwhile Thanos never act hammy, never just burst into cartoonish villany and he spoke softly so people atach to them.

And about gamora..I think he love her but he love is crusade more, is just is worldview and some chararter cant change that not matter what.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#113866: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:04:12 PM

I'd say Thanos loved Gamora the way you might love a pet. Someone can love their cat, but still decide to have it declawed for as petty a reason as keeping their furniture unscratched.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#113867: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:28:10 PM

Thanos is a fanatic on is own cause, he can love things but for him the cause is the cause and everything in those paramatters, in the same way a fanatic love is children and expect the best for them...the best of course, being the ideology he already know are truth.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#113868: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:34:55 PM

Thanos honestly loved Gamora, and that was, in a way, the worst thing that could've happened to the universe.

Because had Thanos been a selfish, egomanical monster without any love, he still would've been a dangerous villain, but he never would've gotten hold of the Soul Stone.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#113869: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:37:53 PM

[up][up][up] Moon Knight is essentially Batman with an actual, diagnosed mental illness (instead of the implied but undiagnosed neuroses of Batman himself). A Badass Normal who uses training, gadgets and lots of money to fight crime. However, due to Dissociative Identity Disorder he often loses track and thinks his civilian identity is literally a different person to his superhero self, and depending on the writer there are more personalities that come and go too. One of these is an Egyptian moon God, Khonshu, however again depending on the writer it's sometimes hinted Khonshu is in fact real and really is talking to Spector. Basically it depends on how much research any given writer does into D.I.D., and how much they play it realistically versus comic book science. Sometimes he is a normal human in superb condition, sometimes he literally manifests superhuman abilities based on his dominant personality. It's.... Complicated.

Edited by jakobitis on Dec 21st 2019 at 1:41:23 AM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#113870: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:46:01 PM

So he's basically the heroic version of that guy from Split.

The legend has returned.
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#113871: Dec 21st 2019 at 1:51:01 PM

Less extreme (fewer personalities and they are generally more cooperative and more or less all good if very much NOT nice) but yes. Again, depending on the writer. Sometimes he never actually has powers at all no matter who he thinks he is at the time.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#113872: Dec 21st 2019 at 2:02:49 PM

Terry Gilliam takes aim at Black Panther, claiming the production team never went to Africa...only they did.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#113873: Dec 21st 2019 at 2:07:09 PM

Old man yells at cloud.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#113874: Dec 21st 2019 at 2:08:44 PM

This is like WCW's New Blood vs Millionaires' Club done right

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#113875: Dec 21st 2019 at 2:08:51 PM

My first thought was "OK,what did he actually say because it sounds like you took liberties to drive clicks to your site"

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