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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113776: Dec 15th 2019 at 5:49:26 PM

[up] I think Endgame did a pretty good job at establishing a "general purpose" reason for why she isn't at any particular crises.

Her jurisdiction is so absurdly vast that she can't be expected to address every crises that pops up anymore then a hero like Spider-Man could be expected to address every crises that transpires on Earth. She's also likely to deprioritize places that have their own proven defenses in place...like Earth.

So the answer to the question of "why Captain Marvel doesn't show up" is always going to be some variation of "She's dealing with an unrelated problem really far away".

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#113777: Dec 15th 2019 at 7:07:07 PM

Broadly, that's true. I was speaking specifically of the period between her first movie and her appearance in Endgame, assuming her second film is set then. It's going to be tricky if they want her to do anything on Earth.

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#113778: Dec 15th 2019 at 7:08:25 PM

I’d prefer than her second movie be sent in the ‘present’ of the MCU rather than another prequel/midquel.

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#113779: Dec 15th 2019 at 7:17:56 PM

I'm not married to any particular plot or setting. I'm ready for Phase 4 to introduce some cool new stuff and not get too hung up on Phase 1-3. Marvel needs to... not reboot, exactly... but get some fresh continuity going.

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#113780: Dec 15th 2019 at 10:44:42 PM

I just found out General Ross will be in the new Black Widow movie, and now I think It'd be funny if they have scenes together, Natasha mentions that her and Banner are kind of a thing, and Ross is just like "Are you freaking kidding me?!"

Edited by Brandon on Dec 15th 2019 at 10:45:03 AM

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#113781: Dec 15th 2019 at 10:46:56 PM

Thus leading to him becoming the Red Hulk as he believes that is the true reason women fall for Banner.

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#113782: Dec 15th 2019 at 10:47:46 PM

[up]The two women, anyway.

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#113783: Dec 15th 2019 at 11:23:20 PM

Hulk smashes.

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#113784: Dec 15th 2019 at 11:29:36 PM

That's not something ya wanna hear in the bedroom if your a normal woman.

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#113785: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:35:15 AM

Reminds me of when the cast appeared on Jimmy Kimmel, and they did some Family Feud thing, and the topic was "worst times to become the Hulk", and I think it was Chris Evens who mentioned during sex (I think he used a more delicate phrasing) and Mark Ruffalo exclaimed "That's the best time!"

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#113786: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:34:15 AM

unless you are betty she hulk like the ultimate, which I found a intersting idea in fact.

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#113787: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:44:14 AM

There was an episode of Cracked: After Hours that brought up how many Avengers f*ck versus how many of them probably don't f*ck.

"Hulk never smash?!"

That was years ago, though, so some of the dynamics have changed since then. Thor: Ragnarok, for instance, finally allowed Hulk to smash.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 16th 2019 at 8:44:50 AM

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#113788: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:45:06 AM

Hulk never smash as Hulk, certainly. Banner himself is absolutely not going to smash as Banner, since the excitement might bring out the "big guy".

[up] In response to your edit, are you suggesting Hulk x Valkyrie? Because that would be fascinating to watch... for purely academic reasons, of course.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 16th 2019 at 10:47:37 AM

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#113789: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:51:34 AM

Ragnarok seemed to imply that Hulk and Valkyrie were smashing before Thor arrived.

At least, I thought it did.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 16th 2019 at 8:53:35 AM

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#113790: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:55:25 AM

Hulk might have gotten smashed

The scene with Valkyrie firing a big cannon and all

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#113791: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:55:45 AM

Ragnarok clearly establishes that they are friends, but Valkyrie seems to have no interest in doing it with anybody. The film is quite sexless.

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#113792: Dec 16th 2019 at 1:22:49 PM

[up]Is more that valkire is friend with hulk, is probably the only friend Hulk have since.....ever.

If anything I would like to see valkire to talk with banner about it.

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#113793: Dec 16th 2019 at 1:56:57 PM

There was a deleted scene of Valkyrie exiting a fling with a woman on Sakaar.

Wouldn't call Ragnarok sexless when it had an orgy ship owned by the Grandmaster. tongue

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#113794: Dec 16th 2019 at 2:01:54 PM

Too bad Jeff Goldblum's orgy ship went up in smoke with the Statesman in Infinity War...

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#113795: Dec 16th 2019 at 2:18:39 PM

I have to admit I would like to see the colecter and the grandmaster talk to each other, if anything because their chararter are so damn quirky.

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#113796: Dec 16th 2019 at 3:25:32 PM

The Eternal’s Kumail Nanjiani shows off his body which has quite the Heroic Build.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/16/the-eternals-kumail-nanjiani-reveals-his-new-superhero-physique

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#113799: Dec 16th 2019 at 6:50:44 PM

So, my brother was watching Civil War on his phone while making sandwiches. I was able to tell he was watching it because of the accent of the King of Wakanda as he was making his speech.

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#113800: Dec 16th 2019 at 6:52:54 PM

Mission Report December 16th 1991...

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