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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#113651: Dec 7th 2019 at 12:52:15 PM

I wanted to make an Ant Man joke but somebody used Pym Particles and beat me to it.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#113653: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:50:31 PM

Now they need to get rid of the current animated shows, buy the rights to Spectacular Spiderman from Sony, make an Xmen show that combines the 90's series and Xmen Evolution from around the end of season 2-beginning of season three, restart Earth's Mightiest heroes and finally create that Marvel Animated Universe we all deserve.

....none of which probably has anything to do with the above link, but I'm gonna keep dreaming dammit!

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#113654: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:52:05 PM

[up]While we're at it, why don't we get a time machine since you want to go back to the past as hard as possible?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113655: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:52:45 PM

[up][up][up] I suppose it was only a matter of time ever since Marvel Studios started making Disney+ shows.

Hopefully the long-term result will be a more cohesive shared universe between the shows and the feature films.

Edited by Falrinn on Dec 10th 2019 at 10:54:52 AM

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#113656: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:56:23 PM

That explains to a degree why they cancelled all the tv properties.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#113657: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:56:31 PM

[up][up][up] It actually does include the animated shows, sort of. From what I can gather, Marvel's Spider-Man and Big Hero 6: The Series are the only Marvel cartoons being renewed for another season. The Hulu shows are still being produced separately from Marvel Studios, but Avengers Assemble and Guardians of the Galaxy (2015) are not going to be renewed for another season.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Dec 10th 2019 at 10:56:52 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#113658: Dec 10th 2019 at 7:57:31 PM

Thank God those Marvel cartoons are ending.

God the current era of MC cartoons is terrible.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#113659: Dec 10th 2019 at 8:01:35 PM

The Hulu shows are a question mark after they threw out everything from Tigra and Dazzler.

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#113660: Dec 10th 2019 at 8:01:39 PM

Rebel Taxi said that too

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113661: Dec 10th 2019 at 8:34:58 PM

That explains to a degree why they cancelled all the tv properties.
Once again, they didn't cancel all of the TV properties: both Helstrom and the four animated Hulu shows are still being made. Agents of SHIELD came to an end naturally and wasn't cancelled (and considering how Disney seemed to like AOS and kept having ABC renew it, odds are it would still be going if the showrunners wanted it to).

The only shows that were cancelled were Cloak and Dagger and Runaways, which is sad, because they were also the two teen-oriented shows and I think they would have made a perfect fit for Disney+ and Hulu. Ghost Rider was sort of cancelled, but I think that was, again, more for creative differences (or monetary reasons) than anything else (or else they would have also stopped Helstrom).

But it makes sense for them to fold in Marvel TV to Marvel Studios, considering Feige is going to be in charge of everything.

The Hulu shows are a question mark after they threw out everything from Tigra and Dazzler.
Only Tigra & Dazzler is a question mark; as far as we know, everything else has been going fine.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 10th 2019 at 8:37:26 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#113662: Dec 11th 2019 at 5:34:44 AM

About that hypothetical X-Men show that combines the 90's show and Evolution, I'd like some ideas from Wolverine and the X-Men as well (such as Nightcrawler with dual cutlasses or Emma Frost as a character, little stuff like that).

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113663: Dec 11th 2019 at 5:54:47 AM

[up][up] While it comes short of a hard "cancel everything RIGHT NOW", I do think it's a valid observation that Marvel has been gradually dialing back on it's Marvel TV projects as of late, especially when it comes to Live Action. Likely in anticipation of this corporate rearrangement.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#113664: Dec 11th 2019 at 7:44:51 AM

You know, not to make light out of a tragedy, but I'm thinking about how much more profitable sites like Ancestry must have been post-Snap.

I missed the opening bits of Endgame and I wonder how much of the post-Snap society we really got to see. All I recall was Scott running around a torn-up neighborhood, Hulk taking a selfie, and Stark living out in the woods. Also Steve being at support groups and Carol being away from the plot.

But see this is where a show like Powerless would have come in handy. Show us the post-Snap world. I could see it now.

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Edited by Soble on Dec 11th 2019 at 8:01:52 AM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113665: Dec 11th 2019 at 7:50:59 AM

[up] I think I recall reading a rumor that Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will be set during the five year gap that occurred in Endgame.

If that doesn't say "want to know how was Earth hanging on after half of it got turned to dust by a purple jerkass? Here you go!" then I don't know what is.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 11th 2019 at 10:51:24 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#113666: Dec 11th 2019 at 7:52:17 AM

Was Powerless O.K? I really liked the concept and only saw one or two episodes.

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#113667: Dec 11th 2019 at 7:52:55 AM

Marvel TV getting axed does suck. The layoffs are gonna suck even more. Even with how rocky the TV/Netflix side could get quality-wise, the good parts made it plenty worth it and I will miss it dearly.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#113668: Dec 11th 2019 at 7:55:53 AM

[up][up]It sucked. When the people behind it got to do the Harley Quinn cartoon they were practically begging not to be judged by it (and well, Network TV sitcom rules can be limiting to say the least).

[up]My guess is they didn’t want characters to be shuffled off to a B-list tier. That and with the Disney+ shows affecting the movies, they need all hands on deck for that. Let’s face it, the service will need something to entice subscribers once Mandalorian’s season ends.

Edited by Beatman1 on Dec 11th 2019 at 10:59:04 AM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#113669: Dec 11th 2019 at 8:00:26 AM

[up] (4) Ah. I didn't know about that. That'll be an interesting one.

[up] (3) I only saw the first episode. It was a dorky comedy. It changed from it's original premise and apparently wasn't popular enough to demand a second season.

Agents Of Shield took the idea of "here's what a superhero story would look like if you focused on all of the middle-men and women in the background" and pulled it off better.

[up] that

Edited by Soble on Dec 11th 2019 at 8:00:49 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#113670: Dec 11th 2019 at 8:14:37 AM

About that hypothetical X-Men show that combines the 90's show and Evolution, I'd like some ideas from Wolverine and the X-Men as well (such as Nightcrawler with dual cutlasses or Emma Frost as a character, little stuff like that).

You know what? Why not? WATXM wasn't a perfect show, but it had some pretty good moments when it didn't focus on Wolverine....which is admittedly ironic.

Anyway, as I continue to live in the dark past of the mid 90's to mid 2000's, lets all hope things work out with all the new Marvel shows....and that Daredevil comes back.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#113671: Dec 11th 2019 at 8:30:32 AM

For one of Marvel's longest running and most iconic characters, Daredevil has had relatively small presence in non-comics media. Only one movie and one tv show to his name.

Edited by windleopard on Dec 11th 2019 at 10:43:10 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113672: Dec 11th 2019 at 9:51:33 AM

[up] That's more than most, though.

Also, he was in Trial of the Incredible Hulk, but we don't talk about that.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#113673: Dec 11th 2019 at 10:04:24 AM

I have a guilty pleasure spot for the made for tv Hulk movies. Though the tv show was legitimately good IMO, the movies were just silly fun. Though I still mostly remember Returns as the one with the dad from Good Luck Charlie, Trial as the one with the dwarf from Lord of the Rings, and Death as the one with G’Kar from Babylon 5.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 11th 2019 at 5:07:06 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#113674: Dec 11th 2019 at 10:41:27 AM

Well dang. Ironically the only Marvel TV shows I'd even have been interested in watching were Cloak and Dagger and Runnaways.

AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#113675: Dec 11th 2019 at 3:23:17 PM

This one's a long shot, but, what if Black Widow (2020) got an "R" rating?


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