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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Blonsky got a series of injections and from what we saw no radiation exposure, save for eventually Bruce's gamma-irradiated blood.
One of Howard's inventions in Agent Carter Season 1 emitted Vita-Rays, so maybe his formula got closer and it was just tested on the wrong people.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 4th 2019 at 9:23:23 AM
I wonder who else in the MCU it might have worked on.
My best guess is Peter, but even so Peter had a degree of Glory Hound when we first met him, and even after that tends he to be motivated by seeking the validation of others, which is a small flaw that he's starting to grow past, but which would absolutely get warped to hell by the serum.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 4th 2019 at 9:15:58 AM
They don't want sociopath soldiers but they don't want Steve Rogers either. He has a tendency of following his own moral compass.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWell, they're gonna have to settle for the second one.
Better to have someone who will still follow orders as long as they are good, as opposed to...
Well they don't get steve either
He went off to follow his own moral compass, got branded a traitor, and spent several years doing his own thing, came back and tried to save the world anyway, things were eventful, and now he's retired.
They get Sam now.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI was thinking of it more in terms of Erskine selling the project. "Only the pure of heart can safely use this" is a bug, but it's a bug that can be sold as a feature.
Though it's not clear if he ever told anyone except Steve about that bug. Phillips thought that bully was a good choice for the serum, which would be stupid if he knew that negative traits would be magnified. Though it's also possible that Erskine told them about the bug and they dismissed it as an exaggeration.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.I also like and subscribe to the idea that the serum did work on Blonsky, but he became Abomination because Emil Blonsky is no Steve Rogers. Blonsky failed the character test just like the Red Skull before him.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It'd be fun to speculate what would happen to other characters exposed to the super soldier serum.
Tony is such a mass of issues that its frightening to consider in his case.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSuper Soldier Tony...
I'm thinking, like, the Ultimate version of Reed Richards. Manic, ludicrously intelligent, obsessed with bringing his idea of the future into reality by any means necessary.
I'm pretty sure Super Soldier Hawkeye is basically just Ronin, but maybe less willing to listen to reason. Super Soldier Widow... honestly, it depends on when in the timeline she gets dosed - I feel like Endgame Widow would end up okay.
Iron Man 2 or Avengers 1 Widow, though, with her ruthless streak and lack of trust of people... probably not.
Who knows if the serum would even work on Thor. Either way, though, I feel like we've already seen "what if the base elements of Thor's personality were exaggerated, especially the negative parts" in pre-character development Thor 1.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 4th 2019 at 11:00:19 AM
Honestly I generally assume the serum isn't, like, magic or anything. Just has a psychosomatic element to it that caused Red Skull's face to do... that because he was so full of angry, violent thoughts it screwed with his bodily systems while the serum did its thing.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Dec 4th 2019 at 2:03:53 PM
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!From what the movie shows us, you need all the elements to get a stable super soldier.
Steve recieved a multiple intramusuclar injections simultaneously (which initiated cellular alteration) and was bathed in vita-rays immediately afterwards (to stimulate cellular growth).
From the flashback, Schmidt got a single injection to the arm which seems to have transformed him right then an there. No exposure to vita-rays. Recieved a prototype kf the serum according to Erskine.
Blonsky for his part recieved three injections, two intramuscular and one medular. Was not exposed to vita-rays.
Blonsky was performing well, and he fully recovered from being broken by Hulk, so the cellular regeneration was working.
Then he got a second set of injections on top which triggered the start of a mutation. And then exposure to Hulk's gamma radiated blood sent him into overdrive.
And keep in mind that Blonsky recieved a recreation of the serum created from blood samples of Steve that had undergone further tampering (Banner's research was meant to be part of it).
There are so many variables to consider in the Serum that it's not unreasonable that Steve became the only successful subject.
Tony is such a mass of issues that its frightening to consider in his case.
Tony can be surprisingly self aware about what a mess he is. I actually think the formula would increase this as well. I can half picture him telling everyone they need to lock him up in the deepest pit imaginable because he knows what a disaster he'd be as a Super-Soldier.
One Strip! One Strip!Last night, Tom Holland showed up on Jimmy Kimmel Live and apparently Tom was pretty buzzed when it came time to save Spider-Man...
Bob Iger saying "there is a world where we can make [Spider-Man staying in the MCU] work" sort of speaks volumes (at least to me) about how serious he took Spider-Man's presence MCU. Like if one piece of the MCU pie was permanently taken out of the equation, the whole picture would feel off.
Wow.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 5th 2019 at 11:55:03 AM
x4 Do you think they'd try to copy Peter now? Just saying. Super strength, speed, can take a train to the face and has the ability to perceive his surroundings to the point of walking through major hails of gunfire without getting hurt. And pre-bite Peter is about a couple steps above pre serum Steve.

Although it working perfectly makes it a failure by military standards.
They want a mass producible super soldier serum, not something where they have to seek out the pure of heart.
Eh, people with hearts like Steve are rare, but America is big. They'd be able to find more than enough candidates. Better that the serum only works perfectly on the pure of heart than turning a bunch of assholes into Super Soldiers, who can randomly decide to murder a bunch of people at any time and you can't do anything about it.
Remember, the real military does not want Sociopathic Soldiers.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.